Ultra
Junior Member
Well, he does think it's China's fault and went as far as to criticize its leaders for being short-sighted but now, he doesn't know what should have been done. I asked him twice now, what specific terms he thought were predatory and how they should have been revised and he answered neither of the 2 times. "Guide and nurture" doesn't mean anything; the key word is "specific." From what I see, China has already guided and nurtured them by providing them with infrastructure plans and the funding to realize them. So now that he liked your post in which you said it's certainly not China's fault, maybe after thinking about it, he changed his mind on that point. He's welcome to do so.
Yes, I see your point of course, we all know what result would have been better but nobody seems to know what course of action would have been better to achieve that result. I want as much as anyone else to see those countries that China made loans to succeed, but when you are dealing with the bottom of the barrel in competence, you need to know that there will be losses and that kind of incompetence is not readily remedied simply by more financial support.
So once again, I'm with you in wanting to see these nations manage their Chinese loans better and walk out into the modern world with this opportunity that China has generously provided, but where I split with Ultra (before) is that I would never point fault on the Chinese government that this did not happen because like everyone else here, I simply don't know what could have been done better. Some people just don't have their act together. You can drive, pivot, maneuver, outrun 5 defenders to gently put the ball in your teammate's hands as he waits 2 feet under the net and sometimes, he'll still miss the shot. I'm not going to blame my hands on that one.
If I knew the specifics, I would be up there with Xi Jinping advising him how to guide and nurture these countries wouldn't I? I wouldn't be down here arguing with you lots endless on these pointless discussion would I?
And let me just say WINNER WINS LOSERS LOSE. It is a loser mentality to let things slide like this - and China is doomed to fail if they continue this way. China really need to take a page out of what US did for the Europe, Japan, South Korea..etc. There was an industrial effort to vertically integrate (off-shoring) US industries with their allied countries which I don't see in this OBOR whatever. China seems to be just content to lend money and expecting return and be done with it (oh and to sell their redundent steel capacity and products).