Trade War with China

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Air Force Brat

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Yes and no.
Soy beans sprouts green but turns yellow and hardens as they mature. There are only three or four beans in a pod.
The immature green ones are known these days as edamame.

you're right about the number of beans, 3 is the norm, 4 is becoming much more common, and you're right 5 is rare and amazing, farmers are planting at much higher populations, so soybean production has gone crazy since the 70's, as soil fertility has gotten so much better and weed control is truly down to a science...

planting and harvesting grain crops is a very big gamble, few growing seasons are perfect, moisture, sunlight, insects, weeds, high soil moisture or low soil moisture, and any and every combination of the above affect yields every year, so American farmers, like farmers around the world pray and hope for the best...

You better start praying now, because corn and soybean planting tends to occur earlier every year, LOL

there are lots of food soybean products, as well as grain products for livestock, so the Chinese Soy Bean is indeed and extremely versatile crop, grown successfully in many different climates and soils... genetically maximizing your soybeans for your soil and weather are tremendously helpful to substantially increase yields, or at least minimize loses...
 

SamuraiBlue

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soybean production has gone crazy since the 70's, as soil fertility has gotten so much better and weed control is truly down to a science...
Actually no, not for soil fertility for soybeans anyways.
Soybeans actively fertilizes itself like clover through a process called
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. Japan from the past did something like rotation system farming by planting soybeans at the edge of rice fields so the nitrogen byproducts seeps into the rice patties.
 

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Yes and no.
Soy beans sprouts green but turns yellow and hardens as they mature. There are only three or four beans in a pod.
The immature green ones are known these days as edamame.

You probably don't realize it, but Central Obamastan has the highest soybean yields in the Nation, as the Haybusa riders say, its not bragging if its true, Iowa is usually a close second, with Minnesota coming in third... this past spring, summer, and fall were hard on Minnesota and Iowa with cool temperatures, less than normal sun, and heavier than normal rainfall, causing late planting and late harvest to exacerbate the problem
 

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Actually no, not for soil fertility for soybeans anyways.
Soybeans actively fertilizes itself like clover through a process called
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. Japan from the past did something like rotation system farming by planting soybeans at the edge of rice fields so the nitrogen byproducts seeps into the rice patties.

Soybean yields in the early to late 70's would typically run from 25 to 35 bushels per acre, now they are 45 to 60 or so bushels per acre, so soybean varieties have increased their fertility,, and the highest per acre yield in Illinois set a record around 108 bushel per acre
 
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Opinion: A good outcome to the trade dispute requires work by both sides
2019-01-11 11:07 GMT+8
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The vice-ministerial talks on China-U.S. economic and trade issues ended in Beijing on Wednesday. The talks were the first face-to-face meetings on these issues since President Xi and President Trump met in Argentina.

Gao Feng, the spokesperson from China's Commerce Ministry, said on Thursday that the extended talks demonstrate a commitment by the two sides to implement the consensus reached by the leaders of the two countries when they met during the G20 Summit in Buenos Aires. And in another encouraging sign, Gao said the series of talks will continue as scheduled. Although little is known about the specifics of these latest talks, what is known suggests a renewed optimism that an agreement can be reached that will deescalate the tensions.

During the talks, the United States put forward what it calls 'structural issues' with China's economy. Some of these issues go straight to the heart of the structure of China's economy and are not up for negotiation. But others are already being addressed through China's policy of reform and opening up. For example, on the issue of intellectual property protection, the implementation of an innovation-driven development strategy has intensified the protection of intellectual property rights. Draft amendments to the Patent Law recently debated by China's legislature would introduce punitive measures for breaches of intellectual property rights, and would severely punish intellectual property infringement.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has said that China's reform process has "entered deep water". Reforms that deal with issues such as intellectual property protection, technical cooperation, market access, and non-tariff barriers must all be carried out in the process of achieving high-quality development in China. The reforms will raise challenges that the government and business sectors need to address, but this is an inevitable part of the process. The overlap between what China needs and what America wants shows that there is common ground between the two sides on some of the issues.

The reason why the two sides have started to make progress in the talks after more than nine months of escalating tensions is the growing pains caused by the dispute. U.S. stocks have had a sharp adjustment since mid-October. U.S. trade deficit reached 50.5 billion U.S. dollars in November – the highest monthly deficit in six years. And America's manufacturing purchasing managers' index (PMI) slowed to the lowest point in two years in December, while at the same time China's PMI fell back below 50 points and into the red last month.

From a global perspective, the World Bank recently lowered its global economic growth forecast to 2.9 percent and 2.8 percent respectively for this year and 2020, which is 0.1 percentage points lower than the forecast in June last year. And there are growing concerns about the impact of the trade war on world financial markets and the broader global economy.

According to the agreement reached last year by President Xi Jinping and President Donald Trump, the two sides have a 90-day window to negotiate. The clock has reached the 40-day mark, which leaves little time for the two sides to reach a solid, workable agreement that meets both their needs. For its part, China has done its utmost to resolve the differences between the two sides. And the statement released by the Chinese side suggests it is optimistic that continuing progress can be made. But success relies on both sides doing the hard work required to make a lasting deal.
 

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Chinese Huawei Executive Is Charged With Espionage in Poland
Detention follows a U.S. push to dissuade allies around the world from using Huawei gear


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Chinese Huawei employee, Polish national arrested on spying charge in Poland
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Polish public broadcaster TVP identified the Huawei employee as the Chinese company’s sales director in Poland, “Weijing W”, also known as Stanislaw Wang.

“Piotr D” was a former high-ranking officer of Poland’s Internal Security Agency, the report quoted a court document of their arrest as saying.

 

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The second of the detainees is Piotr D, who until 2011 was an officer of the Internal Security Agency, where he was the deputy head of the Department of Teleinformatic Security. After leaving, he was involved in teleinformation security at the Military University of Technology, as well as in the Office of Electronic Communications. He currently worked at Orange Polska. He was to have access to information on the functioning of the Government Communication Network (SŁR) - an internal system for sending information between the most important government bodies.
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Piotr D. was a member of the Internal Security Agency until 2011. In the Agency he was the deputy head of the department for teleinformatic security. When it was canceled, the case was associated with the so-called infoaferą, or corruption at government tenders for large information systems. D. however, no charges were ever made.

A part of the department headed by D. in the Internal Security Agency is CERT.gov, or Government Computer Emergency Response Team, a group of IT specialists who deal with the monitoring of government computers and counteracting cyber threats. Piotr D. after leaving the ABW he worked in UKE (he was the director of the audit department in UKE for the president Magdalena Gaj), and more recently - from 2017 - in Orange.

The company unofficially assures, however, that D. did not have any managerial functions in Orange, did not deal with the network and was not responsible for cooperation with Huawei. According to our information, he dealt with cooperation with the Polish Bank Association and was responsible for SMSs with weather warnings.
 

ahho

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You know why the West doesn't recognize Chinese innovation? Technological innovation is all about making people's lives easier. Life is cultural. So what's innovative in China might be nothing in the US and vice versa because it's cultural. But the US wants everyone to be like them by embracing their values because they control what is valued in their culture and you have to do what they want in order to get what is valued. They ultimate control you. So don't think its some altruistic effort that they want you to be successful just like them. They fear the success of Made in China 2025. If the goal is to simply make Chinese successful, how come the Chinese can't do it their way? Success can only be under their terms and that means control over the China for their own interests and not for the Chinese people.

So true, a lot of brands did not survive China is because they did not understand the local markets needs. A decade back when Shanzhai is everywhere, it was not just copying, they actually added more functionality on dumb phones and other appliances, which cause them to flourish
 
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