Trade War with China

Flying_Fortress said:

I have addressed this before. Denying your enemy access to your technology is a practice older than China it's self.

China likes to brag about selling America the rope to hang it's self, it writes extensively in internal documents about using the "Assassins Mace" to defeat America.... then China cry's that America will not give it access to America's high-tech.

I'm sorry but you cannot be in an openly strategic race/cold war with an enemy and expect them to just hand over tech because "China Wants it"

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What you said is not really relevant to my previous post. However, I do not think China is complaining about not being able to access American technology. I think China understands very well that there is no free lunch in technology transfer. What they may complain, maybe to the WTO, is the fact that the U.S. refuses to allow high tech companies to be sold to China, which is a free trade issue.

Flying_Fortress said:

Now you've completely Jumped Shark. "Holds A PHD in Medical Genetics from one of America's top 20 Universities" That sounds like a talking point translated directly from Chinese. Your cover has been blown, you may as well delete this name & start over with a new identity.

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I've been here since 2012; there is another PhD here at the Texas medical center and we've had genetics debates in late 2016. People know who I am here. It is you trying to protect yourself in your little thought bubble pretending that everyone who disagrees with you is a paid shill. Although I have to say, it is very typical of Westerners to pretend to love freedom of speech and then call people shills when they don't like what other people say LOL

You think that I wrote this in Chinese and had to translate into English? My goodness you are very very solidly rooted in Western ignorance. I'm impressed and I really wish more Westerners in high positions thought like you so China would have an easier road to overtaking them. There's nothing more detrimental than not knowing your enemy, and I really like that about you people.

Flying_Fortress said:

I have addressed this before. Denying your enemy access to your technology is a practice older than China it's self.

China likes to brag about selling America the rope to hang it's self, it writes extensively in internal documents about using the "Assassins Mace" to defeat America.... then China cry's that America will not give it access to America's high-tech.

I'm sorry but you cannot be in an openly strategic race/cold war with an enemy and expect them to just hand over tech because "China Wants it"

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That's why China doesn't ask; it gets these technologies by other means and its the Americans crying foul cus they're being outdone on espionage (also older than China itself) LOL. Still think Asians are docile and controllable? LOLOL "Help! I'm being robbed blind and played left and right by someone who's very docile and controllable!" hahahahaaaa Get your story straight, fool.

So let's get to the bottom of this: are you stupid or ignorant, or both? Your conclusion was that China only copies. If you're ignorant, it's because you didn't know that China had much superior supercomputers to the US, as your comment about regular computers with Windows 95 in a Tsinghua basement would suggest. But then, you said you were just kidding, implying that you actually do know about China's supercomputer primacy. But then that would mean that you're stupid, because you had all the data in front of you and you couldn't analyze it sensibly ("China has the fastest supercomputers in the world, which means it can't innovate and only copies" LOL). So which is it? Are you stupid or ignorant, or both? Cus it certainly can't be neither.

manqiangrexue said:

I've been here since 2012; there is another PhD here at the Texas medical center and we've had genetics debates in late 2016. People know who I am here.

You think that I wrote this in Chinese and had to translate into English? My goodness you are very very solidly rooted in Western ignorance. I'm impressed and I really wish more Westerners in high positions thought like you so China would have an easier road to overtaking them. There's nothing more detrimental than not knowing your enemy, and I really like that about you people.

That's why China doesn't ask; it gets these technologies by other means and its the Americans crying foul cus they're being outdone on espionage (also older than China itself) LOL. Still think Asians are docile and controllable? LOLOL "Help! I'm being robbed blind and played left and right by someone who's very docile and controllable!" hahahahaaaa Get your story straight, fool.

So let's get to the bottom of this: are you stupid or ignorant, or both? Your conclusion was that China only copies. If you're ignorant, it's because you didn't know that China had much superior supercomputers to the US, as your comment about regular computers with Windows 95 in a Tsinghua basement would suggest. But then, you said you were just kidding, implying that you actually do know about China's supercomputer primacy. But then that would mean that you're stupid, because you had all the data in front of you and you couldn't analyze it sensibly ("China has the fastest supercomputers in the world, which means it can't innovate and only copies" LOL). So which is it? Are you stupid or ignorant, or both? Cus it certainly can't be neither.

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Save your energy Dr. Windows 95, I blew your cover, there is nothing else for you to contribute with your fake posting.

Flying_Fortress said:

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The question about the soybeans - I guess it's a case by case basis, depending on whether or not that farm bought Insurance ? Farm industries tank all the time, what if there is a drought, what if there is hail, what if they feed all the excess soybeans to pigs & sell more pork to China ? What if other countries buy the soybeans instead of China ? What if Americans eat more soy ?

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thanks for answering;

my whole point has been I'm curious how big financial losses would be the US willing to suffer for a hypothetical
Trade War with China
to make sense, from the strategic point of view, for the US, like 100b, 1t, ... just thinking aloud, I go to bed, now take care
Flying_Fortress
LOL

Flying_Fortress said:

Save your energy Dr. Windows 95, I blew your cover, there is nothing else for you to contribute with your fake posting.

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Well, there is nothing I can contribute if this is the highest level of "rebuttal" you're capable of... haha No answer to my points? OK then. Just close your eyes, cover your ears, and put your head down on the table. That way you can escape to a world where everyone who disagrees with you is "fake" and you're not stupid. Go to your safe place LOL

supercat said:

What you said is not really relevant to my previous post. However, I do not think China is complaining about not being able to access American technology. I think China understands very well that there is no free lunch in technology transfer. What they may complain, maybe to the WTO, is the fact that the U.S. refuses to allow high tech companies to be sold to China, which is a free trade issue.

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Yes I understand China is upset about the U.S. not selling companies to China that they deem important to the development of China, but on the other hand China is not even going to consider allowing SINOPEC or other state owned Chinese companies to be sold to American Venture Capitalist companies that are backed by the U.S. Government. Before it became an issue, China could buy foreign companies of strategic importance, but foreign governments were never allowed to buy Chinese SOE.

Flying_Fortress said:

Yes I understand China is upset about the U.S. not selling companies to China that they deem important to the development of China, but on the other hand China is not even going to consider allowing SINOPEC or other state owned Chinese companies to be sold to American Venture Capitalist companies that are backed by the U.S. Government. Before it became an issue, China could buy foreign companies of strategic importance, but foreign governments were never allowed to buy Chinese SOE.

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There's no such thing as "upset" in business. Emotions are a non-issue; everyone negotiates to get the best deal for himself. If you can deny take other's tech but deny them reciprocal access to yours (without them robbing it off of you), then good job for you. If not, see what's the best deal you can get. We all understand that Trump wants to do that; but the question is whether or not he's accidentally getting his country a worse deal instead.

Why are you all still replying to this guy? He is clearly one of those people that were probably banned before and just come back as a troll.

He got an IQ lower than room temperature... In Celsius. Just ignore, remove posts and move on. 10 pages of junk.

Jura said:

(note I'm not
Flying_Fortress
LOL)

is it true
Party Directive Reveals Increased Chinese Theft of U.S. Technology
United front work aimed at subverting 'hostile' U.S., recruiting Americans in high-tech sector

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So when Chinese tries to recruit tenanted Americans, it is a theft. What about 10 times more than that number of Chinese being recruited by US businesses, does that make the US 10 times bigger a thieve?

I don't know if what this article talked about is true or not, but you do know that there are hundreds of thousands Chinese recruited by US. Why bother to even post something from "freebeacon"?

For the Chinese member here who works in US, please do not take this post as accusation towards you, but it is to counter argue the article.

Flying_Fortress said:

You're so worthless you can't even contribute anything to this thread. The moderators need to ban you for being a waste of bandwidth. I'm the best thing to happen to this forum since it's inception.

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With your continuing trolling, racist flame baiting as well as Mods' inactions (no explicit warnings or sanctions) in the past few days, you are indeed the best thing to happen to this forum.

You just lay bare why we need new and better moderators.