The theoretical basis of Trump's China policy is to weaken China when the U.S. still has the material power to do so. Therefore, read Mearsheimer! It's all about the structure, and Trump is a perfect offensive realist.
To address its own and country biggest weakness, Huawei must advance its chip manufacturing.
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Trump doesn't have a china policy other than Balancing the trade deficit.
Trump is a tool. Literally and figuratively.
Yes, it's every sovereign country's decision whether or not to do business with a competitor. If people want to blame China's technological backwardness, the most immediate villain should be Chairman Mao (and his wife). He started the Cultural Revolution and turned his country's entire military-industrial complex and research institutes (especially universities) upside down. He wasted an entire generation of to-be-scientists by fooling them into being red guards in order to stay in power. Of course, if you want to go back 300 years, you could also blame Emperor Qianlong for refusing to adapt to the Westphalian international system and learn from Britain's industrialization (like Meiji Japan did). Therefore, there's no point blaming.
A lot of truth here. This is going to be a major test for China. No country becomes a superpower simply by cruising into the seat. If they want to become a superpower, they are going to fight for it. The US is not going to just sit around and let another country take the crown.
I don't think you are even paying attention. Trump has a far more developed China policy than any other president. He recognizes China, and rightly so, as the major geopolitical competitor to the US, and if the US doesn't act decisively, China will surpass it within the next 5-10 years and after that, only pull away. So the US will lose its top superpower status and then lose control of its global environment. This is why Trump is acting so aggressively against China. You can hate him, but you underestimate him at your own peril.
actually Trump recognize china as rival, all his speech, policy shows that. the indo-pacific, the state union speech, and others policies/speech. many trump advisor are far right but recognize they need to go something about china before china get too strong.
I don't quite understand what are you trying to say. You said "America does many dastardly despicable things, but refusing to give tech to rival countries is its right. ", what do you mean by that. When Did America ever give China their technology?
We have completely different idea of what more time for Xi means. Your idea is just for China sit there and take the hit. My idea is for China to fight back. If they don't feel pain, what is to stop them from hitting you more often and more severely.
Really, LOL. Everything is so great, why need to do anything.
Why are you keep on asking this "un-sophisticated" question? Do you honest believe ZTE, Huawei, Fujian Jinhua, tariff increase are all isolated instance?
It is like, during WW2, when a Chinese general just took back Shanghai, somebody ask him "I need to know how are you going to take back Shenyang." "No, I don't want to know about anything else or any general strategy, I only want to know Exactly how would you take back Shenyang."
LOL.
Maybe the answer is "just win the damn war".
Now, my question to you is if you like what Xi did with ZTE so much. Would you want to duplicate that with Huawei? Have a phone conversation between Xi and Trump. Then Trump remove the ban, insert an American compliance officer team into Huawei HQ to approval major management decisions. Xi would then provide trade concession to Trump.
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Sanctions on other countries, breaking their own contracts, kidnapping Ms. Meng, starting revolutions in Ukraine and Venezuela, are all evil things, but who they choose to sell to is not. America didn't GIVE technology to China; they allowed China to buy their components. And they can disallow it as well.
No, not really. I never even thought about this; it's just that since you mentioned time, I thought you meant the waiting game. Fight back is far too broad a term. It means nothing.
Many things are done that are not announced and not public, so the above mentioned things came to pass. China works like that. But yeah, don't "fix" what's not broke. If the trend continues to show Chinese GDP and technology rapidly catching up to America and surpassing it, crazy moves that can rock the status quo are against China's risk assessment. We only need to get crazy when the momentum is reversed.
I never said they were isolated. This is the US realizing that China is fully capable to defeating it in a tech battle so it is pulling away its own resources so China cannot use those to do so. This question of how China should respond is the most sophisticated question pertaining to the trade and tech war; if you think it is stupid, it is because you are so far away from the answer you don't even understand the question. You clearly cannot answer it.
Yes, how exactly will you enact the battle plan? That is exactly what wins wars. General strategy, go fight and go win is for imbecile cheerleaders. The real thinkers get together and ask, "what is the exact battle plan to take back Shenyang?"
No trade concessions were made on ZTE, simply a payment and compliance team. If Huawei were in the exact same situation where it would collapse without US parts, then that is the best we can hope for. This is what happens when you are at the technological mercy of your competitors. But Huawei doesn't seem to be in that situation and that is largely due to what Chinese tech learned from the ZTE saga. What exactly (more than FIGHT!) would you have Xi do differently for a better result? (I dunno, 5th time I asked this all-important question?)
Look, I remember your conversations and this is the second time you complained about the Chinese government but when challenged with the question, "What would you do?" you failed to come up with an answer. Last time the conversation was with Equation, where you first claimed you could come up with a better solution in minutes. Then, you said you need a day to think about it and come back with the answer the next day. Ultimately, your "solution" was that you don't work for the Chinese government so it's not your job to come up with a solution. Everyone laughed at how you complained about something but had no better alternative and I thought you learned but here you are in the exact same position again. You complain that the government mishandled the matter, then when challenged with the question of how it should correctly be handled, you dodged the question several times then gave an answer that means nothing. This time you went so far as to say that you don't need a detailed solution; just fight and win! I have never heard anything so stupid and pointless.
Next time you complain, in this forum and in life, have your exact plan ready. Even at MacDonalds, you need to tell them exactly what you want when you complain because even there, nobody has the time to waste on hearing someone bellyache without point or end.
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If Trump's action does not spur the Chinese state to ensure that Chinese entities within and outside of the state possess the full capability of producing high tech products and the equipment to make high tech products in all categories from microprocessor semiconductors to single crystal aerojet turbine blades then what will?
China should accelerate its efforts. It does not matter whether other countries will object to it, because China must realize that they are probably ALL susceptible to US pressure to restrict sales of such tech to China, even at the cost of their own companies and themselves.
China should accelerate its efforts. It does not matter whether other countries will object to it, because China must realize that they are probably ALL susceptible to US pressure to restrict sales of such tech to China, even at the cost of their own companies and themselves.
The United States will not lose Super Power Status, it will just be surpassed by China as a Super Power. Obviously the United States absolutely does not want that to happen. Because with another Super Power which does not adhere to a highly flawed and completely discredited economic ideology and one which is technologically
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