The War in the Ukraine

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Atomicfrog

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gelgoog said:
I think Russia putting the T-62 back into use recently is more of a reflection of experience the Russians had fighting in Syria.
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Maybe they are easier to put them back in service than stockpiled t-72? They will be used to shot at fortification, building and bmp anyway...
 
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Abominable

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More likely it'll be easier to operate for newly conscripted and DPR soldiers. It was the last WW2 style Soviet tanks meaning it is very easy to operate.

Ukraine barely has any tanks left so a newer model isn't really going to make a difference.
 
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Stealthflanker

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Well, as long as it support the narratives of Russian running out of xxxx things. There goes.

The only way to completely assures that they really running out of things is Destruction or massive disruption of production line at UVZ and other plants like KMZ.

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Other things like delivery of Iranian ballistic missiles and such.. i'll only believe it when it's there. Like i wonder if Russians already run out of their own Tochka. Honestly Tochka is kinda a good "counterbattery" weapon against say Himars or Ukraine's own Tochka. Cluster warhead will give a good hit probability.
 
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SolarWarden

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Stealthflanker said:
Well, as long as it support the narratives of Russian running out of xxxx things. There goes.

The only way to completely assures that they really running out of things is Destruction or massive disruption of production line at UVZ and other plants like KMZ.

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Other things like delivery of Iranian ballistic missiles and such.. i'll only believe it when it's there. Like i wonder if Russians already run out of their own Tochka. Honestly Tochka is kinda a good "counterbattery" weapon against say Himars or Ukraine's own Tochka. Cluster warhead will give a good hit probability.
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Counter battery against HiMARS? HiMARS launchers are already out of area of operation before those GMLRS hit their targets.
 
plawolf

plawolf

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Atomicfrog said:
Anyway, whatever the issue of the war, Nato is inflicting decades of damage to Russian equipments and stockpiles while using Ukrainian soldiers and mostly old surplus equipments. Going a level higher in involvement is to commit mostly everyone to armageddon and it's nonsense.
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Hardly, the overwhelming majority of what Russia has lost are obsolete stuff that should have been replaced, or at least properly modernised. Maybe this war is the kick up the butt they need to take defence modernisation seriously and lucky for them, their bestie next door has all the new toys a growing, modern military needs to bring itself into the modern era, and at an unbeatable price to boot. Barring NATO involvement, that may need to wait till after the war ends though.
 
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Soldier30

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Footage of the offensive of the Ukrainian army units in the Berislav direction on October 19 has been published. After Russian artillery strikes, the armored group of the Ukrainian army dispersed and retreated, having lost, according to preliminary data, a tank and abandoned the MT-LB transporter.


The Russian army captured an American M113 armored personnel carrier of the Ukrainian army. Why the armored personnel carrier was abandoned is unknown, it is reported that the armored vehicle is on the move and requires only light repairs.


With the help of the UR-77 installation, the Ukrainian army clears the road from mines.


An episode of the battle of Russian units in the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction in Ukraine. Despite the wound, the Russian soldier with a machine gun is moving quite actively. The video has been shortened.

 
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