The War in the Ukraine
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Ukrainians bombing nuclear waste storage sites, this is largely being ignored by the western media who seem to be claiming that the Russians are shelling their own positions. Russians are also complaining to the UN for some reason, as if anyone in the west will listen.
There are two potential solutions to this. One would be to retaliation strikes against nuclear sites in Ukraine, the closer to Poland and the EU the better. America and the EU have been paying Ukraine to take their nuclear waste so there shouldn't be a shortage of targets. Of course you'd need to time the attacks so any radioactive cloud is carried west not east.
The other would be to set up Azov POW camps right next to the nuclear waste storage, so any leak from a Ukrainian strike will ensure Nazis get an unhealthy dose of radiotherapy.
If nothing is done the Ukrainians will eventually get lucky and cause a Chernobyl style radioactive disaster.
How on earth did Russia capture a drone in that good condition? There's barely a scratch on it.
Seems the Russians have organized quite an exhibition of captured weapons during the Army Expo 2022
The NLAW is American?
Colour me educated
Captured Ukrainian gear - T-64BV, T-64BM, BTR-3, BTR-4 on display at Patriot Park, Kubinka Russia.
The Russians are not looking to kill civilians, they are trying to liberate Ukraine. I expect Ukraine to continue their Human Rights abuses, escalate attacks on ethnic Russians and magnify their false flag operations as they get more desperate. It's likely Russia will have no choice but to take over the whole of Ukraine, including all other Ukrainian nuclear sites. Besides, Russians are not xenophobes. They would never risk irradiating their own land even if the chance were <1% and they wouldn't do something so crazy even against mortal enemies. Not all countries are as psychotic as Ukraine and America.
The Ukrainians used HIMARs missiles against their own captured soldiers at Olenivka, which the West blamed on the Russians. Ukraine actually wants Azov POWs dead so they don't talk.
More trophies.... burnt Australian bushmaster, M777, M4s and Brit and Turk stuff...
They should have put some captured mercenaries on display too for some comedic relief
Tell people you want them to starve without telling them you want them to starve
Well, it is bound to happen when one is a near-peer conflict, while the other was just colonial policing, yet the US couldn't even win, despite multiple shock-n-awe campains followed with hearts-n-minds.
If anything, your argument makes it more embarassing for them.
Because last time I checked, war was about achieving political, economical and geographical objectives, is not about Kill/Death Ratio, because war in real life isn't a Call of Duty game.
Finns like to cope how they killed more soviets that finns got killed, but Karelia and Petsamo are still part of Russia; the US killed plenty of vietnamese, still South Vietnam hasn't been a thing for over 47 years; the US managed to wipe 20% of the population of North Korea, yet the US doesn't dare to touch them nowadays, and so on.
Well, I'm sure you will be quick to show us where, outside of the ground were Russia withdrew out of its own volition, Ukraine has been able to retake ground on its own through counter-offensives, right?
I'm sure they'll be extensive, almost reaching Moscow. Caveat: it has to be actually taken ground; carrying around a border sign for a photo op doesn't count
Starting June, Russia controlled around 123.000 Sq Km of Ukraine, by the end of the month, it was 126.000. Slow yes, but that look like a gain to me. Relative wise, Russia controls an area the size of Switzerland and Austria combined.
I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the ground ceded around Kiev and Kharkiv was compensated with the gains around Mariupol, Severodonetsk, Kherson, etc.
Then there is the economic aspect of it all, with the most resource and industry rich areas of Ukraine pretty much under russian control with the Ukranians locking themselves out of the Black Sea with their "smart" gambit of mining the whole area around Odessa, which keeps killing people.
Those are the realities of assymetrical warfare in the middle east, yes. They still achieved far more in Syria than the US in Afghanistan and Iraq combined fighting those same barefoot militants, with network centric gadgets and whistles, HIMARs, F-35 and what have you.
Now Afghanistan is back in Taliban hands and Iraq is even more of an Iranian proxy. Winning!.
The fact that they prevented Assad from being ousted a la Gaddafi, was already a massive loss for NATO. Any attempt at trying to nuance that is just copium on your part, like trying to paint the Battle of Khasham as a Russian operation and not a Syrian one.
The most amusing part of it all, is that the US abandoned the YPG to be massacred by Turkey when it became polically expedient to do so soon after, but here you are using them as an example, lol.
Well, it is bound to happen when one is a near-peer conflict, while the other was just colonial policing, yet the US couldn't even win, despite multiple shock-n-awe campains followed with hearts-n-minds.
If anything, your argument makes it more embarassing for them.
Because last time I checked, war was about achieving political, economical and geographical objectives, is not about Kill/Death Ratio, because war in real life isn't a Call of Duty game.
Finns like to cope how they killed more soviets that finns got killed, but Karelia and Petsamo are still part of Russia; the US killed plenty of vietnamese, still South Vietnam hasn't been a thing for over 47 years; the US managed to wipe 20% of the population of North Korea, yet the US doesn't dare to touch them nowadays, and so on.
Well, I'm sure you will be quick to show us where, outside of the ground were Russia withdrew out of its own volition, Ukraine has been able to retake ground on its own through counter-offensives, right?
I'm sure they'll be extensive, almost reaching Moscow. Caveat: it has to be actually taken ground; carrying around a border sign for a photo op doesn't count
Starting June, Russia controlled around 123.000 Sq Km of Ukraine, by the end of the month, it was 126.000. Slow yes, but that look like a gain to me. Relative wise, Russia controls an area the size of Switzerland and Austria combined.
I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the ground ceded around Kiev and Kharkiv was compensated with the gains around Mariupol, Severodonetsk, Kherson, etc.
Then there is the economic aspect of it all, with the most resource and industry rich areas of Ukraine pretty much under russian control with the Ukranians locking themselves out of the Black Sea with their "smart" gambit of mining the whole area around Odessa, which keeps killing people.
Those are the realities of assymetrical warfare in the middle east, yes. They still achieved far more in Syria than the US in Afghanistan and Iraq combined fighting those same barefoot militants, with network centric gadgets and whistles, HIMARs, F-35 and what have you.
Now Afghanistan is back in Taliban hands and Iraq is even more of an Iranian proxy. Winning!.
The fact that they prevented Assad from being ousted a la Gaddafi, was already a massive loss for NATO. Any attempt at trying to nuance that is just copium on your part, like trying to paint the Battle of Khasham as a Russian operation and not a Syrian one.
The most amusing part of it all, is that the US abandoned the YPG to be massacred by Turkey when it became polically expedient to do so soon after, but here you are using them as an example, lol.
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