The War in the Ukraine

Phead128

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4Runner said:
This is a fair and open question. As an outsider, this is a "could have" "should have" way. But Putin is not Xi in terms of actual control of their respective countries. Putin's domestic politics is order of magnitude more precarious than Xi's. At home, Putin has to fight a propaganda war and maintain his polling number and image. Putin does not have an air-tight party like Xi has in CCP. Putin does not have an air-tight armed forces like Xi has in PLA. These are some of the factors I consider Putin one of the great politicians of our time. He figures out a way of winning by punching above his weight. And these are also some of the factors I said early and often that this is a protracted war of attrition by his design. So far, his economic/financial war is faring better than his military war. But he was preparing for a total war from get-go. He fouled everyone and yet he fouls no one. He is winning kilometer by kilometer and mile by mile, until an external event tells him the party is over. If he can maintain what he gets thus far, he will go down the Russian history as a great hero. And NATO is helping him by playing chickens. Heck, I think everybody is helping him winning, including Japanese and British.
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This post is Copium x1000.

Putin is not a military genius, he failure to full-scale war mobilization and treat this as a real war suggests he is beholden to unreliable advisors or he still clings on outdated concept of 'brotherly war'. You also suggested that Putin's "protracted war of attrition is BY DESIGN". What are you smoking, bro.
 
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Maikeru said:
Interesting thread showing exactly how badly the Russians are misusing their tanks.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1513754333384527877
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Interesting observation.

If we see a tank we assume that it has full crew, fully loaded with ammunition and so on.

What's happens if the Russians running the tanks in three mode ?
Like:
1 transport ,driver only , empty ammunition carousel
2 light attack, one driver, one gunner , carousel has only few rounds
3 full war , three crews, full ammunition

In this strategy an ambush on the tank during transport ,by ATGM has little effect , there is no one in the turret, and the carousel empty.
It could damage same mechanics ,but nothing that can't be fixed in few hours.

And the ATGM teams has bad days always.
 
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Bellum_Romanum said:
I don't want to derail the thread into the weeds but I must respectfully quibble with the point you made. When did America mobilized 700,000 troops in Iraq War II INVASION? Last time I checked there was a considerable debate pre-invasion, during, and phase IV operation because of Americans utilizing too little troops to accomplish the tasks the military was tasked to do which was to pacify a 25 million country. Check back in history and you realize you made a mistake.
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It was the first Iraq invasion.
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Botnet said:
Admiral Makarov was not sunk. The Pentagon and Kyiv have denied these claims. Not sure who reported it but the "OSINT" bros jumped on the wagon real quick.
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Huh, that would make more sense, thanks. Now that I think of it I don't believe I've actually seen official Ukranian reports claiming the Admiral Makarov sunk, but since when did they and the Pentagon go out and purposefully deny it? Is it recent news?
 
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Phead128 said:
This post is Copium x1000.

Putin is not a military genius, he failure to full-scale war mobilization and treat this as a real war suggests he is beholden to unreliable advisors or he still clings on outdated concept of 'brotherly war'. You also suggested that Putin's "protracted war of attrition is BY DESIGN". What are you smoking, bro.
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why would Putin need full scale mobilization when it is about integrating Europe into Ukraine?. They already extract 1.1m people, opened water canal and land routes. Putin want minimize disruptions in normal lives. and Russia has enough attraction that it can attract global workforce to do anything it need. so at some point there will be rotation of troops.

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Although I prefer Atlantic integration. Because not everything is that great in Europe. Democracy, tolerance and freedom of speech are good, but there are negative aspects. I don’t want to touch on them now. I hope that soon it won’t be Ukraine moving towards Europe, but Europe looking up to Ukraine. Ukraine has everything for this: the prerequisites, the right location, and the best land — black soil, and good people. I pray that everything works out.
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Intrepid

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SampanViking said:
Moscow went into the Ukraine talking about the fairly intangible concepts of Demilitarisation and Denazisfication. The events of the last few moths however have enabled the Russian government to shape public opinion to accept escalation in the name of a far more tangible aim of DeNatofication.
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The population of the NATO member states imagined they were in a time without military enemies. That has changed. After 30 years of demilitarization of civilian life, a new Cold War era is beginning. NATO was never as weak as it was on February 24th, 2022, now it is being rearmed and civil defense is also being rebuilt.

There is currently no functioning civil defense, everything was dismantled. The officials are now going into the archives and looking at how things were organized before 1990.

I think that's a shame and didn't think it would be necessary again. I work in a civil authority, I'm on call today. This is new, it hasn't existed for 30 years.
 
4Runner

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Intrepid said:
The population of the NATO member states imagined they were in a time without military enemies. That has changed. After 30 years of demilitarization of civilian life, a new Cold War era is beginning. NATO was never as weak as it was on February 24th, 2022, now it is being rearmed and civil defense is also being rebuilt.

There is currently no functioning civil defense, everything was dismantled. The officials are now going into the archives and looking at how things were organized before 1990.

I think that's a shame and didn't think it would be necessary again. I work in a civil authority, I'm on call today. This is new, it hasn't existed for 30 years.
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That is the way it is supposed to be to serve their own people. It is their politicians who are derailing their peaceful and prosperous living. As an outsider and a bystander, this war is entirely unnecessary, even considering some futuristic imaginations. That is the very reason I detest EU.
 
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