The War in the Ukraine

HighGround

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Short thread of the difference in manufacturing costs between Russia and Germany. Each 152mm round costs about half what a 30mm round costs in Germany


I really can't tell how credible Patricia Marins is.

Half the time she seems like she's full of it, and the other half she makes genuinely good points backed up by primary source information.
 

Tam

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Parking lot in the Kharkhiv region took a rocket hit, including the RH-70 Vampires and Olha launchers used on Belgorod. (Usually rocket strike = Iskander)

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Here comes another loaded Ukrainian landing boat going the Dniepr and getting Lanceted.

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Tornado-S hits a rear base of the AFU in the Kherson region.

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Upyrs take out at least a couple of Bradleys.

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Counterbattery takes out a Ukrainian 2S1 Gvozdika in the right side of Kherson.

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TOS hits at Ukrainian positions in Krynki.

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Kostroma paratroopers with Kornet and F#got ATGMs strike at Ukrainian infantry at the Artemovosk front

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MT-LB used as "Shahed-vehicle" at work in Novomikhailovka again. They won't use this tactic repeatedly if it doesn't work. Namely used to demine a large area. The work of obtf Kaskad.

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Ukrainian Marines recount deadly mission to free towns east of the Dniepr River --- Washington Post. The River of Death. Soldiers recount people who were drowning due to their injuries or dragged to the bottom of the river with their heavy backpacks.

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Arrested. Ukrainian company sent medical supplies and tactical harness to the Russian Federation in 2022-23 for the amount of 40 million hyrvnias. (What!?)

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Ukrainian air target shot down towards Novorossiysk, possibly a Neptune anti ship missile. Ukrainian drones shot down heading towards Kerch Strait

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Russia has already started to use ballistic missiles from the DPRK, according to the White House.

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Damage assessment of the M-Tak facility after missile strike. This is the very definition of flattened.

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Su-34 dumps FABs with UMPK at Ukrainian deployment points in the village of Zmeevka at Berislav in Kherson.

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A Russian missile lands at it's target. This kind of video footage is illegal in Ukraine because it goes against the official narrative.

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Lancets hitting what could be two IRIS-T launchers.

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An entire Ukrainian platoon surrenders, possibly in Zaporozhye.

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14th Brigade Kalmius using heavy artillery possible Krasnopol against Ukrainian targets.

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TOS against Ukrainian positions in Kherson.

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Sinnavuuty

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These interception rates are fantastical. As in, based on fantasy and not reality.These figures are woefully out of date as reported by the Pavel Luzin in his "One-Way Ticket" article for Ridl. The methodology he uses to even get these figures is ridiculous. Just for reference here is the direct text;"Consequently, from the 1990s to the mid-2010s Russia managed to
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three turbojet engines for its cruise missiles: the R125−300 engine, a simplified version of the R95−300 with reduced thrust, and two variants of the TRDD-50 turbojet. And while the R125−300 is suitable for the Kh-35 missiles, the two variants of the TRDD-50 give the missiles a range of up to 1,000 km and 2,500 km (or even more), respectively. The former variant is installed on most Kalibr missiles, as well as the 9M729 and Kh-59 missiles. The latter is installed on sea-launched Kalibr-NK and air-launched Kh-101 missiles, with
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of this variant launched as late as in 2014−2015. Here, it can be added that workforce productivity at the United Engine Corporation’s
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is 6 to 11 times lower than at the US companies
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, which are also involved in the production of engines for cruise missiles. As a result, the annual production of TRDD-50 turbojets can be estimated at 45−50 units in each of its two variants.
That is, the total annual production of the Kalibr, Kh-101, 9M729 and Kh-59 cruise missiles is unlikely to exceed 100 missiles." The last sentence in particular has been shown to be ridiculously false. So no. Publicly available sources are shit, and have assumed that what the Russian MIC delivered between the years 2000-2021 represents the peak of what Russian MIC can deliver for that time period. This is objectively a bad assumption to make. In fact, it would be very safe to assume that Saturn can manufacture well above 100 engines per year even as far back as 2018.
I don't know if Pavel Luzin's numbers are correct. I already commented on this in 2022:
For example, according to the Russian MoD bidding website, the production of TRDD-50x turbo-fan engines (Izdelie 37 and modifications) is at the level of 1,500 units per year. Just divide into groups because only Kalibr (3M14) uses TRDD with code 37-01. The others (02, 03, 04, M) are equipping Kh-55, 101 and the new missile 9A5015 (Izdelie 715).

Also, Kalibr (Kalibr-NK), Club, R-500 – they are all different missiles. And each has very significant numbers on the “shopping list” of recent years. Only Kalibr-NK is being produced at a rate of 200-250 units per year. Counting that they have been manufactured since 2014, the account is far from those estimated by the traditional media. And there's still X55, 101/102 etc..
 

Kejora

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