The War in the Ukraine

This is being reported, 10 people inside Azovstal have emerged and surrendered.
Can't find any official Ukrainian response yet, pro-Ukraine sources of course deny this and claim it's a psyop.

Temstar said:

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This is being reported, 10 people inside Azovstal have emerged and surrendered.
Can't find any official Ukrainian response yet, pro-Ukraine sources of course deny this and claim it's a psyop.

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At exactly the same time NATO chief just claimed Ukraine can win this war...

some thing about steel. electric will be next.

Temstar said:

The destroyed tank is said to be a T-64, presumably suffered an ammo explosion. This would be the counterattack out of Kharkiv being engaged?

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At first I thought it was a T-72, since the blade seemed too beefy for a T-64, but then the protuding suspension arm of the road wheels and the profile of what's left of the hull with the tapering at the back does indicates that it was a T-64 at some point.




Also, maybe Zelensky started drinking his own cool aid. Actors don't tend to be the sharpest tool in the shed, Reagan being a case in point.

james smith esq said:

Here: Chew on this!

Growing evidence of a military disaster on the Donets pierces a pro-Russian bubble.​

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Seems some rational adult pro-Russians are quitting the cope! Here, we can only hope!

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Hope for what? Come on man, I understand you never liked this operation or the tactical ineptitudes of the Russian military but Russia has committed herself in this operation and there's no other option for them but to succeed no matter how unpretty or incompetent they look to most western observers. Put yourself in their position Putin or not, can you honestly say that you'll accept defeat and humiliation now or even humiliation and castration pre-invasion? It's easy for an American to say this bravado when you're neighbors are weaklings.

But, hey, what do I know, am not a combat veteran of non-conventional wars like yourself so you're more than likely right with your appraisal of this war.

Turns out the delegation of 10 wanted to negotiate for their gangrenous wondered to be removed and Russia agreed. They are going to DPR.

Temstar said:

On pro-Russian telegram channel there seem to a wave of images emerging of destroyed Ukrainian armour near Izyum:


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The destroyed tank is said to be a T-64, presumably suffered an ammo explosion. This would be the counterattack out of Kharkiv being engaged?

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The way these Soviet design autoloaders explodes make me doubt about the design of the T-14, at least it doesn't have crew inside the turret anymore. Don't know if the reinforced crew capsule of t-14 could survive that type of desintegration...

Russian twitter channels claiming an American and British general have both surrendered:
Obviously doesn't mean much without proof or an official statement. If I was Putin I'd keep it quiet until the end of the war as to not provoke hostility in the west.

I definitely think there are some foreign NATO members hiding in the bunker. A senior Chechen commander confirmed it on camera last month. Whether NATO were dumb enough to have senior figures there remains to be seen.

I sense a Nuremberg trial if true...

Atomicfrog said:

The way these Soviet design autoloaders explodes make me doubt about the design of the T-14, at least it doesn't have crew inside the turret anymore. Don't know if the reinforced crew capsule of t-14 could survive that type of desintegration...

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No amount of reinforcement is going to save you from an explosion powerful enough to throw a turret 100m into the sky.

They should just go with plan B and use them as land drones.

Maybe a effect of the current war in Ukraïne.