The Standard Missile

ger_mark

Junior Member
Since the SM-2 has a secondary surface to surface role, can Patriot PAC-2s fire at land based threats?

maybe if the enemy troops are on a wide open landscape, but i dont think they are that stupid
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
the pac 2 is probably good against partrol craft only. i dont think it will have good sucess penatrateing the ak-630s cause it comes from up top. it would probalby just knock out the part of the sov it hit, not even mission kill. if it could kill destroyers, you dont need the harpoons anymore!
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
ger_mark said:
lol
unlike the chinese sams pac2 is able to take down modern fighters and even cruise missiles

chinese sams will take out tour house if u dont stop posting stupid nationalist crap. the pac, in ITS SURFACE ATTACK MODE, can only take on patrol craft.
yeah, but the pac2 just cant seem to get those silkworms...
 

ger_mark

Junior Member
actually the iraqis shot 15 silkworms against kuwait
9 of them have been destroyed

the other targets were not fought because they have not been in a route wich dangers a protected aerea
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
ger_mark said:
actually the iraqis shot 15 silkworms against kuwait
9 of them have been destroyed

the other targets were not fought because they have not been in a route wich dangers a protected aerea

some proof? can u ever stop using the word all? even if one slips through, that means there is a flaw.
 

BrotherofSnake

Junior Member
some proof? can u ever stop using the word all? even if one slips through, that means there is a flaw.
Echo Battery, 2nd Battalion, 43rd Air Defense Artillery fired and successfully engaged with the first PAC-3 missiles in combat. The Patriot also hit several non-Scud missiles launched against Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, including anti-ship missiles like the Silkworm missile. These missiles arc low to the ground (50km) compared to the Scud missiles which enter the stratosphere, allowing much less time to target and intercept the missile. As a result several of the missiles did get through but their effect was minimal.
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vincelee

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apparently the German doesn't know what cost effectiveness and second fire role mean, and little Banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside) is just repeating stuff he doesn't understand.

Going back to the original topic of using the PAC2 in SURFACE TO SURFACE mode, it can be done, probably. After all the PAC2 used TVM, which means it's under radar guidance during the entire flight path. So if a battalion of T-72s is advancing on your position in open terrain, which means you are presented with a clear line of fire, and a certain German in our forum is in command and decides to engage enemy armor with a SAM battery due to either testosterone or alcohol poisoning (or really, just the lack of a good brain), and some how, your radar can suppress the massive background return and discriminate against the incoming armor, then yes, you can engage them.

Do note that in practice, it's inpractical, even impossible, to implement the kind of signal analysis and filter required to turn an air search/illumination radar into a SAR.
 

FreeAsia2000

Junior Member
vincelee said:
apparently the German doesn't know what cost effectiveness and second fire role mean, and little Banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside) is just repeating stuff he doesn't understand.

Going back to the original topic of using the PAC2 in SURFACE TO SURFACE mode, it can be done, probably. After all the PAC2 used TVM, which means it's under radar guidance during the entire flight path. So if a battalion of T-72s is advancing on your position in open terrain, which means you are presented with a clear line of fire, and a certain German in our forum is in command and decides to engage enemy armor with a SAM battery due to either testosterone or alcohol poisoning (or really, just the lack of a good brain), and some how, your radar can suppress the massive background return and discriminate against the incoming armor, then yes, you can engage them.

Do note that in practice, it's inpractical, even impossible, to implement the kind of signal analysis and filter required to turn an air search/illumination radar into a SAR.


Very well argued.
ger_mark do you have any response to that based strictly on technical
criteria and not opinions ?
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
BrotherofSnake said:
Echo Battery, 2nd Battalion, 43rd Air Defense Artillery fired and successfully engaged with the first PAC-3 missiles in combat. The Patriot also hit several non-Scud missiles launched against Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, including anti-ship missiles like the Silkworm missile. These missiles arc low to the ground (50km) compared to the Scud missiles which enter the stratosphere, allowing much less time to target and intercept the missile. As a result several of the missiles did get through but their effect was minimal.
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yeah, in a dewsert landscape a few missles getting through are fine, but what if its new york? can u affor a few misses then?
 
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