There is no JJ-7L
The Q-5, J-7, J-8 and older PLAAF aircraft
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There is no JJ-7L
Looks like J-20's grandpa.A wind tunnel model of one of the concepts for the J-9 program (611 Institute).
I am trying to figure out why the first batches of PLAAF JJ-7 have a c/n with a 'A' (like A0718) and later batches have a c/n with a 'L' (like L1508).
But I recently found PLAAF JJ-7 with c/n A0607 and PLAAF JJ-7 with c/n L0607.
Could JJ-7 A0607 had a MLU (i.e. re-equipped with J-7E or J-7G systems?) and assigned the new suffix 'L'?
Jeroen
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Wow ... you always learn something each day.
Even if by all i know early JJ-7 batches are called JJ-7 and later ones JJ-7A - as standard by the Chinese nomenclature - I never noticed this.
Thanks for the compliment . . .
Perhaps you can bring my question to the attention of Chinese-speaking aviation enthusiasts?
Jeroen
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The sign of time J 7 will be retired soon
China to replace J-7 fighter jets with advanced models
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Published: Mar 14, 2021 09:14 PM
Two J-7 fighter jets attached to an aviation brigade of the air force under the PLA Western Theater Command take off simultaneously for a live-fire flight training exercise on March 22, 2018. (eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Xi Bobo and Cao Jiang)
The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Air Force has started to gradually decommission its fleet of J-7 fighter jets and replace them with more advanced, next generation ones, recent media reports revealed.
J-7 fighter jets attached to an aviation brigade affiliated with the PLA Western Theater Command Air Force recently conducted a series of combat-oriented exercises, and these exercises were the curtain call performance of the J-7s in this particular brigade, as the unit will receive new aircraft to replace them soon, China Central Television (CCTV) reported on Thursday.
In the exercises, a JJ-7, a trainer variation of the J-7 played the role of the enemy and two J-7s took off to intercept it, the report said.
As the main force in China's second-generation fighter jet fleet and the country's most experienced fighter jet currently still in service, the J-7 has a ceiling of more than 20,000 meters and a top speed of Mach two, making it the most high-reaching and fastest aircraft from the 1960s to the 1990s of the PLA and the absolute main force in fighting for aerial superiority, CCTV said.
Even today, it can integrate with third generation fighter jets and early warning aircraft to play unique roles in combat, CCTV reported, noting that the J-7 also trained pilot cadets to fly more advanced fighter jets.
The J-7 is a classic second-generation fighter jet that significantly contributed to safeguarding China's airspace, Wei Dongxu, a Beijing-based military expert, told the Global Times on Sunday.
China also ran a lot of modifications and upgrades on the J-7, gaining experiences in the process, and eventually developed variations like the JL-9 trainer jet, Wei said, noting that the J-7 also saw many export deals.
The PLA Air Force is now commissioning third-generation fighter jets in large numbers, including the J-10, J-11 and J-16, with fourth-generation fighter jet the J-20 also entering service, and it was only a matter of time before the outdated second-generation J-7 retires, analysts said.
Third-generation fighter jets like the J-10 perform better in both aerial combat and land attack, as their radar capability and maneuverability are superior to the J-7 in all fronts, Wei said.
China to replace J-7 fighter jets with advanced models
By
Published: Mar 14, 2021 09:14 PM
Two J-7 fighter jets attached to an aviation brigade of the air force under the PLA Western Theater Command take off simultaneously for a live-fire flight training exercise on March 22, 2018. (eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Xi Bobo and Cao Jiang)
The Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Air Force has started to gradually decommission its fleet of J-7 fighter jets and replace them with more advanced, next generation ones, recent media reports revealed.
J-7 fighter jets attached to an aviation brigade affiliated with the PLA Western Theater Command Air Force recently conducted a series of combat-oriented exercises, and these exercises were the curtain call performance of the J-7s in this particular brigade, as the unit will receive new aircraft to replace them soon, China Central Television (CCTV) reported on Thursday.
In the exercises, a JJ-7, a trainer variation of the J-7 played the role of the enemy and two J-7s took off to intercept it, the report said.
As the main force in China's second-generation fighter jet fleet and the country's most experienced fighter jet currently still in service, the J-7 has a ceiling of more than 20,000 meters and a top speed of Mach two, making it the most high-reaching and fastest aircraft from the 1960s to the 1990s of the PLA and the absolute main force in fighting for aerial superiority, CCTV said.
Even today, it can integrate with third generation fighter jets and early warning aircraft to play unique roles in combat, CCTV reported, noting that the J-7 also trained pilot cadets to fly more advanced fighter jets.
The J-7 is a classic second-generation fighter jet that significantly contributed to safeguarding China's airspace, Wei Dongxu, a Beijing-based military expert, told the Global Times on Sunday.
China also ran a lot of modifications and upgrades on the J-7, gaining experiences in the process, and eventually developed variations like the JL-9 trainer jet, Wei said, noting that the J-7 also saw many export deals.
The PLA Air Force is now commissioning third-generation fighter jets in large numbers, including the J-10, J-11 and J-16, with fourth-generation fighter jet the J-20 also entering service, and it was only a matter of time before the outdated second-generation J-7 retires, analysts said.
Third-generation fighter jets like the J-10 perform better in both aerial combat and land attack, as their radar capability and maneuverability are superior to the J-7 in all fronts, Wei said.
if i count correctly there are more than 2 dozen J7 units (including training ones), how long would the complete retirement take? i guess at least 5 years
This is via at the CDF after we had a discussion on this report
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"Deino, thanks for the check. You are right on 71 being in CTC. I've corrected it below and merely reflected it as a brigade since I'm assuming all fighter units have converted to brigades. I haven't noted any operational difference between how regiments are operated vis brigades yet.
On 94, this was previously under Nanjing (ETC) but later merged with Jinan MR training base - per scramble, which technically puts it under CTC. However scramble lists it under NTC (not sure why). Location wise, I think it is unlikely to be under NTC control but borderline between CTC & ETC. Considering the depot status, I would provisionally put it under CTC instead.
Updated.
CTC: 20 (Tangshan), 21 (Yanqing), 53 (Wudangshan), 71 (Xishanbeixiang), 94 (Xuzhou) – depot
STC: 27 (Pulandian), 52 (Wuhan), 132 (Xiangyun)
ETC: 42 (Zhangshu)
NTC: 44 (Bikeqi), 88 (Dandong), 91 (Liuhe)
WTC: 1 Tng Bde (Jiuquan), 2 Tng Bde (Hami) – only training units left
Article:China to replace J-7 fighter jets with advanced models
I estimate J-7s may be withdrawn from combat service within the next 5 years and clearly won't go past this decade in frontline combat service."
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So in summary, he comes to the same conclusion!
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