The Q-5, J-7, J-8 and older PLAAF aircraft

lcloo

Captain
missing with IR missiles is really bad.
Not surprising that the PL-2 missed its target. Short range infra red AAM of that era have low hit rates. Even US sidewinder of Vietnam era had low hit rates of around 15%, until AIM-9L begin to show up in 1976 and raised its kill rate to around 80%.

Early AAM like PL-2 and Sidewinder were effective only if aimed and fired from 6 o'oclock of target. The target can easily break missile lock by hard turns.
 

simonov

Junior Member
Not surprising that the PL-2 missed its target. Short range infra red AAM of that era have low hit rates. Even US sidewinder of Vietnam era had low hit rates of around 15%, until AIM-9L begin to show up in 1976 and raised its kill rate to around 80%.

Early AAM like PL-2 and Sidewinder were effective only if aimed and fired from 6 o'oclock of target. The target can easily break missile lock by hard turns.
Even Israel and South Africa have a same problem when use the Matra Magic 550 but later French fixed it and its good perform in Iran Iraq war (1980-1989) Iraq loved so they replace Atoll with Magic
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
J-8 assembly line from days of old.

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Comparing this assembly line to J-20 assembly line is like Earth and Heaven ... China has come a very long long way in quality and technology and workmanship
 
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