The PLAN LCAC Type 726 Yuyi Class

Hendrik_2000 · Feb 7, 2017

Iron Man said:
Hey technical genius, the FRONT skirt is deflated, but the side skirts are definitely not deflated; we are measuring the WIDTH of the 726, not the LENGTH, so the state of the front skirt is completely irrelevant. Are you blind or what? At most you could make a case that the side skirts are partially deflated or on their way to becoming deflated, but clearly they are still infused with air in your photo and not in their fully resting state as depicted in my photo.

I have absolutely no idea why you think this argument is supposed to help your quixotic cause of side-by-side IFV loading. If the side skirts are deflated as you claim, then fully inflated they would be even wider than they are in the photo. Second, your perspective claim is BS unless you can demonstrate EXACTLY how my lines were drawn erroneously. Third, I calculated 571 not 580, unless you somehow forgot how to read. Fourth, you are still trying to weasel your way out of accounting for your 'error' in measuring the width of the 071's well deck, an error SO obvious it strains the imagination to conceive of how you could have honestly missed that error.

Oh so even though you claim that the 726 could carry IFVs and APCs side by side, now the tune is that they somehow aren't going to be used this way. LOL ok whatever you say, technical genius.

You pointed it out yourself, it is not actually a bad design flaw if the 726 was not designed to load vehicles side by side in the first place. It is also clear from the placement of both the gate winches as well as the air vents that side by side loading is not a specific requirement of the 726. Basically, the entire configuration of the vehicle deck, from the placement of the track guides, the placement of the air vents, and the placement of the gate winches, indicates single-file loading. Could the 726 load 2 jeeps side by side? Maybe in a pinch, but I certainly wouldn't say this is something that was designed into the 726 from the beginning.

Putting our expectations and desires into another person's/team's design is not necessarily an indication of bad design on their part. The fact is that the PLAN's first generation ACV is not up to par with the USN's ACV in terms of utilizing the vessel's footprint to maximum efficiency. If this is because the 726's engines are bigger and less efficient than the LCAC, then it will hopefully be addressed by a second generation PLAN ACV and engine design.

I thought you are going to run away and cover your face in shame and never show up in this forum With your genius idea of making measurement from perspective picture. typical thickskin
It NOT completely deflated but to lower the ram they have to vent the air resulting in lower pressure in the skirt . Now the whole weight of the LCAC pushing the skirt sideway
To make it easy for layman here is an example if your car tire deflate and you measure the width of the tire Is the same when width as when it under full pressure
You are the one that is blind everybody can see the skirt is crumpled up . You are in denial and even Kwei concede it can transport 2 IFV side by side. And He is experience old sea salt and you are loud mouth nobody pretend to be expert It show that you don't even have the grounding other than hubris
I am even using your methodology measuring from the edge of crew cabin to the edge of pilot cabin and add some allowance for bulging of the skirt.Look it up

Iron Man · Feb 7, 2017

SanWenYu said:
I agree that a change like this could be done and would make better use of the floor for side-by-side.

But the winches, if still sticking out of the floor, would still be vulnerable to damages from bumps by vehicles. It would probably be even more so with two columns of vehicles squeezed in.

The winches on the USN LCAC are the same way; they stick up out of the floor. As long as you are careful driving off the ramp, this should not be a problem.

Hendrik_2000 said:
I thought you are going to run away and cover your face in shame and never show up in this forum With your genius idea of making measurement from perspective picture. typical thickskin
It NOT completely deflated but to lower the ram they have to vent the air resulting in lower pressure in the skirt . Now the whole weight of the LCAC pushing the skirt sideway
To make it easy for layman here is an example if your car tire deflate and you measure the width of the tire Is the same when width as when it under full pressure
You are the one that is blind everybody can see the skirt is crumpled up . You are in denial and even Kwei concede it can transport 2 IFV side by side. And He is experience old sea salt and you are loud mouth nobody pretend to be expert It show that you don't even have the grounding other than hubris
I am even using your methodology measuring from the edge of crew cabin to the edge of pilot cabin and add some allowance for bulging of the skirt.Look it up

Wait, wait, wait. You actually thought I was the one who was going to run away and cover my face in shame??? ROFLMAO I am simply and truly honestly astounded at how totally and utterly clueless you are here. They say that the lack of ability to know oneself by introspection is usually a key indicator of poor intelligence. Were you not the dishonest fraudster who measured the 071's well deck past the empty space and straight into the starboard wall of the well deck and then subsequently refused to acknowledge your deceit even after being caught red-handed? Were you not the same one who repeatedly failed to demonstrate visually how I made some kind of "perspective" error in measuring the width of the 726's vehicle deck even after I demanded that you prove your case multiple times?

As a "layman", I can tell you that your example of a deflated tire makes me laugh hard, and shows you to be worst possible actual layman, because I can prove to you with pictures what you are unable to prove with totally non-analogous and laughably fallacious examples.

Here is your so-called "deflated" 726:

Now here is an ACTUAL deflated 726:

Notice how the side skirts your photo still has significant bulging on the sides while in my photo the sides are ACTUALLY completely deflated. Should I start laughing now or are you just going to start running away and save me the trouble? BTW, a technical genius like you should have noticed LONG ago that the front skirt is actually compartmentalized from the side skirts, so that the side skirts can remain inflated while the front skirt is deflated. Actually I'm pretty sure the side skirts are also compartmentalized; this would make total sense from a damage control point of view. Puncturing of one skirt compartment (e.g. by enemy bullets) will still allow adjacent skirts to remain functional. I also think it's pathetic that you are trying to rely on another poster's speculation in order to reinforce your own. Nothing against Kwai and his "Mark 1 eyeball", but an eyeball estimate doesn't hold a candle to an actual ruler. You need to face the fact that you are just utterly wrong on so many fronts here that it should be painfully obvious to you by now.

Iron Man · Feb 7, 2017

BTW, here is a pixel analysis of the 726's dimensions. In this photo we have a handy 52D with 2 nearby 726s:

The 052D measures 342 pixels in length. That translates into 0.455m/pixel.

The 726s measure 65 x 32 pixels, translating into 29.6m x 14.6m.

The usable well deck width measures 11 pixels, or 5.0m.

Hendrik_2000 · Feb 7, 2017

I am finished with answering your BS, hocus pocus It senseless to talk to egomaniac and thick skin Answer my leak tire pressure analogy Yes or NO otherwise Go talk to the wall !

Iron Man · Feb 7, 2017

Hendrik_2000 said:
I am finished with answering your BS, hocus pocus It senseless to talk to egomaniac and thick skin Answer my leak tire pressure analogy Yes or NO otherwise Go talk to the wall !

Of course you are finished with your own BS because you have nothing left to argue with. Your lies have been exposed, your illogic thoroughly dissected, and your hilariously ludicrous and non-analogous "leak tire pressure" analogy disproven with ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS that I conveniently provided for you. Will there be anything else?

tphuang · Feb 7, 2017

alright, cut it out guys.

Hendrik_2000, this is at least 2nd time today you've been involved in a long unending argument which is either pointless or completely off topic. Please be respectful and just call things a quit when they are not going anywhere.

asif iqbal · Feb 8, 2017

Iron Man said:
BTW, here is a pixel analysis of the 726's dimensions. In this photo we have a handy 52D with 2 nearby 726s:

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The 052D measures 342 pixels in length. That translates into 0.455m/pixel.

The 726s measure 65 x 32 pixels, translating into 29.6m x 14.6m.

The usable well deck width measures 11 pixels, or 5.0m.

What is the parking area on the 726?

The whole length is ~30m what is the parking width ?

And which well deck are you referring too ? Type 071 LPD ? Off its not 5 m

FORBIN · Feb 8, 2017

China Launches Production of Type 726A Small Landing Ships Equivalent to US LCAC

Beijing has launched mass production of the Type 726A small landing ships, which are equivalent to the US Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC).

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has started mass production of the Type 726A small landing ships, which are equivalent to the US Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC), the

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information website reported, citing a satellite image, dated by December 19, 2016, which shows the China’s Jiangnan Changxing shipyard, located near Shanghai.

Yellow squares on the satellite image mark places of construction of four Type 726A small landing ships, which are clones of the American LCAC amphibious assault ships.
The Type 726 ships, which were built earlier, are equipped with the UGT 6000 gas-turbine engines, produced by the JSC ‘Sumy Frunze NPO’. The new Type 726A ships got the Chinese QC-70 gas-turbine engines (an alteration of the WS-10 aircraft engine), which differ from the

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engines with their low noise and vibration.

The Type 726/726A is capable to carrying up to 60 tons of equipment. Its maximum range is 320 km which is enough to cross the Taiwan Strait at speeds up to 80 km per hour one way, if disregarding the situation at sea.

In total,

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plans to build twelve Type 726/726A small landing ships, four of which are already in service, while four others are under construction.

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Iron Man · Feb 8, 2017

asif iqbal said:
What is the parking area on the 726?

The whole length is ~30m what is the parking width ?

And which well deck are you referring too ? Type 071 LPD ? Off its not 5 m

The 5m is the "parking width" of the 726, so I think the overall usable area of the 726 is going to be something like 5m x 26m or 5m x 27m.

The well deck of the 071 is 16m x 120m.

FORBIN said:
China Launches Production of Type 726A Small Landing Ships Equivalent to US LCAC

Beijing has launched mass production of the Type 726A small landing ships, which are equivalent to the US Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC).

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has started mass production of the Type 726A small landing ships, which are equivalent to the US Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC), the
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information website reported, citing a satellite image, dated by December 19, 2016, which shows the China’s Jiangnan Changxing shipyard, located near Shanghai.

Yellow squares on the satellite image mark places of construction of four Type 726A small landing ships, which are clones of the American LCAC amphibious assault ships.
The Type 726 ships, which were built earlier, are equipped with the UGT 6000 gas-turbine engines, produced by the JSC ‘Sumy Frunze NPO’. The new Type 726A ships got the Chinese QC-70 gas-turbine engines (an alteration of the WS-10 aircraft engine), which differ from the
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engines with their low noise and vibration.

The Type 726/726A is capable to carrying up to 60 tons of equipment. Its maximum range is 320 km which is enough to cross the Taiwan Strait at speeds up to 80 km per hour one way, if disregarding the situation at sea.

In total,
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plans to build twelve Type 726/726A small landing ships, four of which are already in service, while four others are under construction.

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The 726 is a "clone" of the LCAC? We can only wish the 726 were actually a clone of the LCAC. Clearly a rag article from a rag website.

asif iqbal · Feb 8, 2017

Interesting

So USN can lift 10 x Humvee In 3/4/3 configurations

I reckon the 726 can lift 10 x Humvee In 2 columns of 5

However if they optimised the design this could be 3 columns of 5 so 15 x Humvee

726 is wider and longer than its American counterpart but the design is not optimised

So that's 40 Humvee per LPD could be 60 with better lift capacity which is space optimised that's a 1/3 more

I wonder if they will work on this in this direction

The PLAN LCAC Type 726 Yuyi Class

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