The Mysterious PLAAF's H8 & H9 Stealth Bomber... Rumour...? Reality...?

challenge said:

according to aviation week, russia is debeloping next gen. of stealth bomber, the bomber resemble B-2,except it use 2 engine rather than 4.
chinese bomber,likely resemble refine version of RAF vulcan.
china aerospace factory ,to date still un able to process a large single pieces of composite material.

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I thought the PAK DA was more of a Tu-160 development rather than an analogue to the B-2...?
Or are you talking about something else entirely...

I can't see why the PLAAF would go for a vulcan configuration when it's well known the flying wing is the most stealthy and capable bomber design there is at the moment... and problems in developing large composites will still exist if it was a massive delta as opposed to a flying wing.

The only real limitation to building a larger bomber will be the lack of experience in large planes and as you say, composites. Stealth, avionics, aerodynamics are all areas aerospace industries should have experience with. I'm not sure how great those problems with composites still are (I believe a chinese company recently bought a european composite firm?), but they should only lessen as companies like XAC develop larger transport aircraft like the Y-20 and build brand new H-6Ks. Even a PLAAF NGB with less composites wouldn't be a bad choice as a filler for the time being, while later variants can be improved with more composites to lighten the plane and extend range, payload etc.

FarkTypeSoldier said:

Hey guys,

Saw a news of H8 & H9's news on this military programme by Phoenix TV.

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(Chinese programme, sorry) the news starts from 5mins 28secs but it seems Li Xiaoning's comments are either censored or due to youtube bug...

Although there are news but so far, they are either fan arts or images of B2 Spirit or X-47B... Judging from the revealing of J-20, how soon could either H8 or H9 or both to appear.

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The host spoke too fast for me to make out what he was saying... Can anyone give a translation?

that phoenix TV program is not credible, the host talk about the many military information of the recently week, the one of the news he talk about that China is developing two kind of strategic bombers,H-8 and H-9, he said one is conventional strategic bomber, another one is stealth strategic bomber,and he said the stealth strategic bomber has been tested flight, of cause, all he said that just from some source.
I think if China develops stealth strategic bomber and the bomber has been flight tested,they won't develop conventional strategic bomber,so what he said is rumors.
China develops strategic bomber is true, but the detail project has not exposed yet.

Bltizo said:

The host spoke too fast for me to make out what he was saying... Can anyone give a translation?

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The presenter, Mr Tong Jiayao says, "after the revealing of J-20, Chinese netizens are asking whether PLAAF have another other projects to be reveal. New leaks reveal that PLAAF is researching and developing a new H9 new gen stealth bomber."

Then the next scene is a news flash of Shanxi, around the Yanliang area, some people had captured a picture of the H9 flying pass: . It is a delta wing aircraft, single engine under the aircraft body, noise level is low and doesnt show the trails of the burners. It is said that the PLAAF shall equip with both H8 and H9 at the same time. The first kind is a bomber with heavy payload, with conventional air thrust which is the H8; another kind is high attitude and high speed, medium payload and unconventional air thrust which is the H9, max attitude 36000m, max speed mach 3.7. It will fly pass the current AA guns and SAM site range. It will be unmatch should war with Taiwan begins. Taiwanese AIM-90 & AIM-120's range will not hit the bomber. Some other sources report that H9 uses high composite material and it can perform air-refueling with 4 engines with a max thrust of 18760lbs (sorry if the units are wrong), can fly at mach 3 and above.

After the news flash, returns to the programme, but the comments by Mr Tong is either censored out or youtube bugs causing the lost of audio. The same goes for comments by Mr Li Xiaoning.

Shanxi Yanliang is an important aviation industry according to this .

Another search reveals that is located there, as well as Xi'an Aircraft Industry Group (XAG) is located there as well. XAG developed the H6 bomber and its variants over the years.

Also please note that over the years, online rumours that PLAAF has awarded the stealth bomber project for XAG to R&D.

The Mysterious PLAAF's H8 & H9 Stealth Bomber... Fan arts all welcomed to share

I think we can post some fan art to share as well...

FarkTypeSoldier said:

The presenter, Mr Tong Jiayao says, "after the revealing of J-20, Chinese netizens are asking whether PLAAF have another other projects to be reveal. New leaks reveal that PLAAF is researching and developing a new H9 new gen stealth bomber."

Then the next scene is a news flash of Shanxi, around the Yanliang area, some people had captured a picture of the H9 flying pass:

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. It is a delta wing aircraft, single engine under the aircraft body, noise level is low and doesnt show the trails of the burners. It is said that the PLAAF shall equip with both H8 and H9 at the same time. The first kind is a bomber with heavy payload, with conventional air thrust which is the H8; another kind is high attitude and high speed, medium payload and unconventional air thrust which is the H9, max attitude 36000m, max speed mach 3.7. It will fly pass the current AA guns and SAM site range. It will be unmatch should war with Taiwan begins. Taiwanese AIM-90 & AIM-120's range will not hit the bomber. Some other sources report that H9 uses high composite material and it can perform air-refueling with 4 engines with a max thrust of 18760lbs (sorry if the units are wrong), can fly at mach 3 and above.

After the news flash, returns to the programme, but the comments by Mr Tong is either censored out or youtube bugs causing the lost of audio. The same goes for comments by Mr Li Xiaoning.

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correct me, the second picture is USAF stealth UAV,it was seen in Boagram air base in aghanistan,the the first picture more likely demonstrator aircraft.
around mid-2005 (not sure) there's drawing of single engine,flying wing being develop,the aircraft likely to be a demonstrator aircraft.being developed in Xian.
the blogger likely refering to same project.

FarkTypeSoldier said:

The presenter, Mr Tong Jiayao says, "after the revealing of J-20, Chinese netizens are asking whether PLAAF have another other projects to be reveal. New leaks reveal that PLAAF is researching and developing a new H9 new gen stealth bomber."

Then the next scene is a news flash of Shanxi, around the Yanliang area, some people had captured a picture of the H9 flying pass:

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. It is a delta wing aircraft, single engine under the aircraft body, noise level is low and doesnt show the trails of the burners. It is said that the PLAAF shall equip with both H8 and H9 at the same time. The first kind is a bomber with heavy payload, with conventional air thrust which is the H8; another kind is high attitude and high speed, medium payload and unconventional air thrust which is the H9, max attitude 36000m, max speed mach 3.7. It will fly pass the current AA guns and SAM site range. It will be unmatch should war with Taiwan begins. Taiwanese AIM-90 & AIM-120's range will not hit the bomber. Some other sources report that H9 uses high composite material and it can perform air-refueling with 4 engines with a max thrust of 18760lbs (sorry if the units are wrong), can fly at mach 3 and above.

After the news flash, returns to the programme, but the comments by Mr Tong is either censored out or youtube bugs causing the lost of audio. The same goes for comments by Mr Li Xiaoning.

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I see... that picture you link to, is probably a PS, I just have to say. I think this particular phoenix tv report is probably inaccurate but there is an H-8 or H-9 under development at XAC.

another rumor,the article said that China strategic stealth bomber H-10 recently successful tested flight,the H-10 capable of carrying strategic nuclear missiles. the article said that the research and development base in Qinghai, a secret military base in the Gobi, H-10 stealth bombers from the 1998 R & D, code-named "the 10th project. " FarkTypeSoldier, would you translate this article? I think you like.

日本《产经新闻》近日发表文章，提到中国研发的可搭载战略核导弹的H-10型隐形轰炸机近日试飞成功.文章说该研发基地位于青海戈壁的一个秘密军事基地，H-10型隐形轰炸机从1998年开始研发，代号“十号工程”。



文章最后还说，中国是在1998年南斯拉夫战争中获取了F117和B2“幽灵”的隐形技术，并引进了俄罗斯的轰炸机技术，在自主研发的技术上开发成功的。H-10的成功打破了美国隐形的垄断地位，大大威胁到日本的安全。


同日，美国军事专家卡其罗拉在个人网站上评论说，美国军方早在2年前就发现了H-10型的存在，并通过各种渠道得到了“克星”的技术设计参数和作战性能，美国已经做好了充分准备迎接“克星”的挑战，包括在东太平洋地区部署红外隐身雷达，增加拦截导弹数量等等。


B- 2轰炸机采用翼身融合、无尾翼的飞翼构形，机翼前缘交接于机头处，机翼后缘呈锯齿形。机身机翼大量采用石墨/碳纤维复合材料、蜂窝状结构，表面有吸波涂层，发电机的喷口置于机翼上方。这种独特的外形设计和材料，能有效地躲避雷达的探测，达到良好的隐形效果。B-2轰炸机有三种作战任务：一是不被发现地深入敌方腹地，高精度地投放炸弹或发射导弹，使武器系统具有最高效率;二是探测、发现并摧毁移动目标;三是建立威慑力量。美国空军扬言，B -2轰炸机能在接到命令后数小时内由美国本土起飞，攻击世界上任何地区的目标。


隐身B—2A轰炸机机身长21.03 米，高5.18米，翼展为52.43米，最大载弹量22680公斤。机上装有4台美国通用动力公司出产的F118— GE—100型涡扇发动机。飞机在空中不加油的情况下，作战航程可达1.2万公里，空中加油一次则可达1.8万公里。每次执行任务的空中飞行时间一般不少于10小时，美国空军称其具有“全球到达”和“全球摧毁”能力。B—2A集各种高精尖技术于一体，更因隐身性能出众，被行家们誉为“本世纪军用航空器发展史上的一个里程碑”。据报道，B—52轰炸机的雷达反射截面为1000平方米，米格—29为25平方米，B—lB为不足l平方米，而B—2A只有不到0. 1平方米，仅仅相当于天空中的一只飞鸟的雷达反射截面，这就使一般雷达很难发现它。


轰10隐形战略轰炸机，这是一款跟美国B2隐形战略轰炸机相类似的大型战机，是中国航空人近年秘密研制的，所以过去很少有它的消息披露，如今横空出世，当然令国家领导人高兴，也让中国人民为之自豪!因为它打破了美国人在这一领域的垄断地位，也走在了俄国人的前面，对中国空军的攻势战略起到了决定性的作用。这种说法可能性基本为百分之百。

Well this ain't like J-20, way too fishy...no pictures, no satellite imagery to support claim of its existence.