The Military of Hong Kong (amusement)

...so, if China went to war, would HK send men to join the PLA? Sort of confused as to the economic/political/military relationship between PRC and HK.

why aren't the borders opened by now if HK is just another city?

what sort of taxes does HK pay to mainland?

do HK population ever enlisted in the PLA?

Well to tell you guys the truth before anything wild pops up,
Even when HK has a high GDP, the HK government is still very poor relatively speaking. Why?
Hong Kong has no sales tax, and its income tax is very low.
Just because Hong Kong has a high GDP, its government doesn't have its common share of wealth. (How else did Hong Kong attract so much customers anyway? Why isn't Macau as rich as Hong Kong? The lack of government controls led to greater free trade.)

Personaly, I find this topic sort of confusing. This is sort of like saying "What if Manhattan Island had it's own Military?" I am sure it did at one time, but still, it seems a bit silly to ask.

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agreed.

SDU to me is more like the SWAT. Does it perform well against groups? I don't know.

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yes it is weird that HALF our landmass is covered by military bases.

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sumdud said:

Well to tell you guys the truth before anything wild pops up,
Even when HK has a high GDP, the HK government is still very poor relatively speaking. Why?
Hong Kong has no sales tax, and its income tax is very low.
Just because Hong Kong has a high GDP, its government doesn't have its common share of wealth. (How else did Hong Kong attract so much customers anyway? Why isn't Macau as rich as Hong Kong? The lack of government controls led to greater free trade.)

agreed.

SDU to me is more like the SWAT. Does it perform well against groups? I don't know.

PS
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you are wrong here. hong kong's government is actually one of the richest in the world and one of the very few governments that do not have any debts. all governments around the world such as the us, japan, mainland china, all got a lot of debts but hk's government got no debt. the low tax is exactly the reason of what makes it rich. while the tax rate is low, the revenue is actually high because of the increase in commercial activities and investment driven by a low tax rate. selling land is also one of the biggest revenue sources of the hk's government. hk's economic system is the dream of adam smith where there is the minimal level of government control and a low tax rate.
in hk, the government pay for medical services and nearly everything while the tax rate is very low.

Yes, I know HK sales a lot of land and is its biggest revenue, but land doesn't grow......(My Dad thinks HK will crumble sooner or later since it is nonrenewable land that helps the government....) I know that HK has a low income tax rate and 0 sales tax, but...........if Hong Kong isn't losing money in a way, then why is Hong Kong talking about imposing a sales tax?

i wonder if the SDU followed the same training, cause if they did they are really elite

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SDU are among some of the most famous CT groups.

SDU is just a police tactical unit. It is good at anti-crime operation. Unlike SAS or para, I seriously doubt that it has the ability to deal with terrorists/soldiers with equal or superior weaponery.

Before 97, SDU units were sent to jungle warefare training in Malaysia with the Gurkha, plus some HK military reserve. They were air-extracted for exhaustion just after a week or two. Not exactly soldier material, to say the least. Even the reserve performed better.

I am not saying Hk people are no soldier material. With proper training and leadership, soldiers can be made. Just that SDU is just SDU, good at fighting crime.

isnt da military of hk da garrison that the PLA sends in???

and ps....hk goverment is intruducing tax very soon

aquauant said:

SDU is just a police tactical unit. It is good at anti-crime operation. Unlike SAS or para, I seriously doubt that it has the ability to deal with terrorists/soldiers with equal or superior weaponery.

Before 97, SDU units were sent to jungle warefare training in Malaysia with the Gurkha, plus some HK military reserve. They were air-extracted for exhaustion just after a week or two. Not exactly soldier material, to say the least. Even the reserve performed better.

I am not saying Hk people are no soldier material. With proper training and leadership, soldiers can be made. Just that SDU is just SDU, good at fighting crime.

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Aquauant are u a Australian/British military reserve? I would like to hear more of ur training in tropical rainforest of the equatorial region. Do u have any story of SDU training in Malaysia to share?

I have personally got throught a 3 weeks training in those rainforest of Brunei. But judging from the SDU physical fitness compared to mine( of course I'm weaker), I am quite surprise some SDU can't take it. Perhaps they are not used to the humid tropical foilage of southeast Asia? But to me wad is worst of the tropical jungle is the extremely thick foilage and the series of small knolls that seems never ending in front of u. The ridge line is also plagued with huge buttress roots, making trekking tough. Not to forget those liches that suck ur blood during river crossing. At nite, it is so dark that u can't even see your hands in front of you!! No kidding.

But perhaps, SDU is a police force, thus they may be more familiar with urban fighting instead.

sumdud said:

Yes, I know HK sales a lot of land and is its biggest revenue, but land doesn't grow......(My Dad thinks HK will crumble sooner or later since it is nonrenewable land that helps the government....) I know that HK has a low income tax rate and 0 sales tax, but...........if Hong Kong isn't losing money in a way, then why is Hong Kong talking about imposing a sales tax?

SDU are among some of the most famous CT groups.

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the government is planning on introducing sales tax because hk's population is getting old. right now, life expectency for its male population is the longest in the world, and for women, it's the fourth longest. overall, right now its life expectency is the second longest in the world. in 3 decades, life expectency in hong kong will be the longest in the world.

this means the majority of the population will be consisted of retired people, strinking the tax base dramatically. that's why they have to think of a new type of tax where more people will fall under it.

but the government still has a large surplus this yr with no debts unlike any other governments in the world. hong kong has never issued government bonds.

regarding the land, the government doesn't only get money from selling lands. they also tax every property trade, and an annual property tax that has a rate proportion to the market value. so when land prices remain high, the government will jsut keep generating a large revenue.

Hiya everyone... been buzy working so haven't post here quite a long time.

Hong Kong SDU are not be the best in jungle warefare, but I am pretty sure that they can match even the best counter-terrorists force in the world in a urban scenario.

So Nethappy, now that your back what interesting info can you bring us about the Type 99? :china:

Off topic!!! PM him next time!!