The Main-Armament Level Of Warships Entering Service

A

AndrewS

Brigadier
Registered Member
Dizasta1 said:
When (not if) Russia refurbishes it's nuclear Kirov cruisers. It would represent a significant boost in their ability to project power and establish their Navy's control in whichever area of operations they're assigned to. I sure do hope that Russia manages to upgrade all four Kirov Cruisers. Kirov symbolizes the greatness of the Russian Navy as it once was. But to take it one step further, it would be delightful to witness a resurgent Russian Navy. Their resilience (Russian) is admirable and encouraging to witness. As with the Kirovs, would love to see the likes of Lider Class nuclear destroyers, Super Gorshkov destroyers, as well as Gorshkov frigates. Judging by the design of Steregushchiy, Buyan-Ms, Gorshkov, it's with a certain degree of confidence that I can say that when Russia brings out its destroyers and heavy frigates. They will be in a class of their own. With the Chinese having the spot light on them with their awesome pace in churning out destroyer after destroyer, frigate after frigate. It's only natural to have a keen expectation to see the Russians match their Chinese friends with their new ships. Looking forward to the times ahead. I have always been a great admirer of the Russians (not soviet, there is big difference).
Click to expand...

I doubt 2 of the 4 Kirovs will be refurbished, as they're almost reaching 40 years old now.

That applies to most of the Russian fleet.

And I doubt that Russia has the finances to replace its destroyers, given what we're seeing with the Gorshkov frigate.
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

General
am wondering what AAMs and AShMs exactly
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

are getting (somewhere I've heard of MICAs and NSMs but googling now showed other missiles as well)
f7e5e3b8287980eac14042cdd18be3a1.jpg

space for 12-cells VLS and 8 AShM tubes is there:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

but I would count them, with not bad ratio of 20/2.4 = 8.3, only if I saw them hahaha
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

General
Sep 30, 2017
Jura said:
the stringent test of the line from Thursday at 9:30 PM
would be
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

if ever refurbished, in the process which is ... dragging (now they say
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

they'll finish in 2021 LOL)

I now looked at this relatively modest fan-art:
fb9ee8461c60798e8ede39066a67495b.jpg

(it's relatively modest when compared to other fan-art)

captioned:

УКСК (= универсальный корабельный стрельбовый комплекс)
3 ВПУ (= вертикальная пусковая установка), 48 cells in each, total 144 cells
it basically means VLS for Kalibrs, possibly other cruise missiles in the future

ЗРК (= зенитный ракетный комплекс)
"Редут" (as in
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
)
5 ВПУ as above, 5*48=240 cells
it basically means area-defense missile system (anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense)

the sum would be whopping 384 cells :)

had they installed just six arrays, they would've been (with 6*48=288 tubes while displacing 28k) close to the line:
0045b8f50a59adda2e16b7dfc38214cf.jpg
Click to expand...
now noticed the most recent article (dated today):
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


it's of 'feel good' type, babbling about 'plastic surgery', so called Zircon AShM etc.
no numbers, no dates LOL
(just confirms УКСК, says Редут is planned)
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

General
Nov 5, 2017
Jura said:
the line from Oct 12, 2017
Jura said:
3ddb44af69bf0559eba6ccfc07394e06.jpg
Click to expand...
would hold for tiny
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

(< 1k displacing) if they installed the VLS array for eight Kalibrs (today they said they would:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
); ...
Click to expand...
... actually the displacement can go as low as 240t of
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
with four tubes LOL!
I now realized when looking at
DObA0vDU8AAfIVl.jpg

in Twitter:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

General
Sep 30, 2017
Jura said:
the stringent test of the line from Thursday at 9:30 PM
would be
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

if ever refurbished, in the process which is ... dragging (now they say
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

they'll finish in 2021 LOL)
Click to expand...
now noticed recently they had said 2021 again:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!


Jura said:
I now looked at this relatively modest fan-art:
fb9ee8461c60798e8ede39066a67495b.jpg

(it's relatively modest when compared to other fan-art)

captioned:

УКСК (= универсальный корабельный стрельбовый комплекс)
3 ВПУ (= вертикальная пусковая установка), 48 cells in each, total 144 cells
it basically means VLS for Kalibrs, possibly other cruise missiles in the future

ЗРК (= зенитный ракетный комплекс)
"Редут" (as in
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
)
5 ВПУ as above, 5*48=240 cells
it basically means area-defense missile system (anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense)

the sum would be whopping 384 cells :)

had they installed just six arrays, they would've been (with 6*48=288 tubes while displacing 28k) close to the line:
0045b8f50a59adda2e16b7dfc38214cf.jpg
Click to expand...
so let's wait and see what they'll achieve
 
D

Deleted member 13312

Guest
There is a lot has to be accounted for when counting the vls numbers on a single ship. This includes the absolute size of the vls and the method of launch applied.
Personally I will not include point defense VLS like the hhq-10, RAM or the TETRAL as part of the main armament. As such in my personal list I would classify the preferable number of VLS to weight of the ship as such :

1)0-2000 ton range : At least 4 tubes for full size AShM/ cruise missiles. Anti-Air Defense VLS is desirable but not necessary(referring to missiles with more then 50km range).
2)2000-6000 ton range : 8-16 tubes for full size AShM/ cruise missiles. 32-48 VLS for AA missiles and ASROC
3)6000-10000 ton range :16 tubes for full size AShM/ cruise missiles at least. 48-96 VLS for AA missiles and ASROC
3) 10000 range and above : No less then 100 full sized VLS for any assortment of missiles.

This is coming from observing the vast majority of ships that is coming into service in the past three decades.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top