The Korean war

The_Zergling,

Your whole post was based on the fact that Kim Jong II was still the leader while my post was based on the fact that he was gone. You see the difference.

I was addressing the possibility of a re-unifrication not on when or how it was going to happen.


Anyway here is the mid of the person running the very stable country.

n secret talks, unstable North Korean tyrant Kim Jong Il has offered to shut down his nuclear arms program and allow U.N. weapons inspections unlimited access to his country -- if he's given a sneak preview of Star Wars: Episode III.

U.S. negotiators were flabbergasted when the flamboyant, wildhaired strongman said he would give up his nukes in exchange for a chance to see the upcoming installment of the popular sci-fi saga, not due to hit theaters until May 25, 2005.

"When Kim told us his primary demand was 'I must have Star Wars,' we first thought he was referring to the Strategic Defense Initiative -- that he was saying he'd surrender his nukes if his country would be protected by the space-based missile defense shield America is developing," says a Bush administration source involved in the high-stakes bargaining sessions.

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Regards,

Chinawhite

chinawhite said:

Anyway here is the mid of the person running the very stable country.

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Chinawhite

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-_-;; I hope nobody takes anything from World Weekly News seriously. It's a supermarket tabloid, they make up stuff like this:

I do doubt the creditbility of this article but i checked it out and it was on CNN.



But to tell you the truth i can see it happening

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I do doubt the creditbility of this article but i checked it out and it was on CNN.

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This shows how fake CNN can be. If Kim wanted to watch latest Star Wars before offcial relase all he needed to do is ask someone to cross the border to china and buy an illegal copy from a street seller.

Actually Kim is well known in his love for cinema, he kidnapped a South Korean film maker once just so that the film maker could teach him how to make movies. Kim has also directed many of his won movies, writen many musicals and has a collection of THOUSANDS of movies.

alright guys, as said in the martial law, there would be no political discussions. this thread was originally about chinese participation in the korean war(at least it's suppose to be since it's in the chinese military history forum) and it's now shifting towards the political side. so stop the political discussions NOW! and get back to the chinese history.

What amazes me about the Korean war is how stupid American intelligence was and still can be, 500,000 PLA troops over the border into North Korea utilizing forest fires to mask their movements, completely out of the Art of War imho and came within a stones throw of driving the US and UN forces into the sea.

Unfortunatly, once suporior firepower and positioning could come into position it was impossible even with numbers for the PLA to dislodge the US forces.

Had the battlefield conditions better suited the more mobile war the PLA was used to fighting it would have been a different ending.

Let me just say I am just a history buff with no military experience but as far as I understand:
North Korea started the Korean War on its own with the Soviets unwilling to help and the Chinese ambivalent.
The North Koreans had poor logistics and failed to make the final push to take all of Korea and in the meantime the US had passed a resolution in a Soviet-less UN (as someone mentioned before the Soviets were foolishly boycotting) to interfere.
Mainly US forces, in the name of the UN, counter-attacked and in a fateful US decision, pushed into North Korea.
Once that was done and before the US/UN forces squeezed the North Koreans against the Chinese border, China had decided it cannot let Korea fall into hostile hands (this is well-illustrated by history) and intervened.
Among other diplomatically disastrous actions and suggestions MacArthur wanted to make the same mistake twice by attacking China, going so far as going nuclear. Truman, understanding that the Soviets would not stand by if that happened, dismissed MacArthur.
With neither side having the will or the means to accomplish total victory, and with the very real threat of the conflict spiralling, the war was "ended" with an armistice.

the US and the Chinese shouldnt have even been in the war, this is why the US joined, because they wanted to stop comunism from spreading and to attack CHINA, well why even care about the spread? the Chinese joined because if the US and South Koreans had won, the US could build a military base and asemble its troops instead of coming by sea, too attack China, so how would you like it if your enemy was standing at your doorstep everyday just waiting to harry you?ChairmenMao saw this coming so China joined the North Koreans.

the US and the Chinese shouldnt have even been in the war, this is why the US joined, because they wanted to stop comunism from spreading and to attack CHINA, well why even care about the spread? the Chinese joined because if the US and South Koreans had won, the US could build a military base and asemble its troops instead of coming by sea, too attack China, so how would you like it if your enemy was standing at your doorstep everyday just waiting to harry you?ChairmenMao saw this coming so China joined the North Koreans.

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I agree. Last time I was watching the history channel in morning on weekends. USA joined the war because SK is allied with USA, and USA want to stop the spread of Communism. China joined the war because China feel threatened, because USA and SK was nearly at the border between NK and China! USA want people on its side, thats why she attacked Vietnam.