The Kashmir conflict 2025.

phrozenflame

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Utterly pathetic surrender from both sides but especially Pakistan. If they get bullied in the future because of this impotence they deserve every bit of it.
are you ok friend?

Pakistan is 10x smaller, they slapped InAF in greatest BVR engagement since...BVRs. They delivered strikes into India, destroyed over 50+ drones. They took some hits, then the delivered the response which immediately bought India to the table. Look at Pakistan's yesterday's briefing, look at today's India's briefing. The difference is clear. One may argue as to who really won, but PAF clearly won.
 

siegecrossbow

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are you ok friend?

Pakistan is 10x smaller, they slapped InAF in greatest BVR engagement since...BVRs. They delivered strikes into India, destroyed over 50+ drones. They took some hits, then the delivered the response which immediately bought India to the table. Look at Pakistan's yesterday's briefing, look at today's India's briefing. The difference is clear. One may argue as to who really won, but PAF clearly won.

You can win in the air but lose on the ground too. We won’t know till the smoke clears.
 

lube

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Are you sure? In press conference, Indian spokeswoman said there were 26 India locations hit by Paki air strike, including air bases & army hospitals. :rolleyes:

Victory is pretty subjective here.
If India says those don't matter and tells the public to focus on the wins only, then it sates their bloodlust.


China has always wanted to be a mediator, but its J-10C and PL15 have betrayed China.:p

Could have avoided these attacks if no Rafale was shot down, but they freaked out and had to escalate.
But probably the better trade (for China) if it ends here.
 

CaribouTruth

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You can win in the air but lose on the ground too. We won’t know till the smoke clears.
It can also be a learning opportunity for Pakistani Armed Forces. Looks like they've been fairly prudent and pragmatic about their defense acquisitions up to now - so the next step for them possibly will be assessment of their ground based long range offensive capabilities like ballistics, cruise missiles and drones.
 

N00B

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Are you sure? In press conference, Indian spokeswoman said there were 26 India locations hit by Paki air strike, including air bases & army hospitals. :rolleyes:

She said 26 installations across 9 cities. 5 took damage. But I have seen video of only 1 base. There is no way you can hide a smoke cloud these days. So I am assuming the damages were minimal and it was another way of India granting Pakistan a face saving exit.

On the contrary, the videos out of Pakistan are absolutely massive. I mean you can see for yourself. I posted a few here. In fact I couldn't believe my eyes at first. India bombing Rawalpindi is same as Pakistan bombing Delhi. I think Pakistan has certainly lost more aircraft than India atm.

Hell, there is one clip doing round where it appears India has bombed the bunker door of Pakistan's nuclear weapons storage facility inside a hill :eek:. Although I am not fully sure it's legit, I am kinda leaning towards believing it.

I am excluding LoC shelling here.
 
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