The Kashmir conflict 2025.

crazyinsane105

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Seems like India has been smart to keep their navy out of this fight. Would be really difficult to explain to the public if a few of their ships got sunk by anti ship missiles. Their navy is a bit large and many of their vessels lack proper defenses against supersonic anti ship missiles.
 

kurutoga

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That is a very high threshold, IMO that point will be the point when IN actually attacks Chinese controlled land. Anything less will not provoke a response from the PLA directly, at best China sending weapons to PK.

China will not sit here watching Pakistan get defeated. There goes the entire BRI. From China's point of view, what constitutes as national interests is not simply being attacked. For example, the 1979 war with Vietnam started not due to Vietnam invasion of China.

However war decisions are always very difficult. Do not expect a quick decision.
 

Tomboy

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Some drone wreckage found in Udhampur, Jammu
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I'm not NGL but that white balloon looking thing looks to be another warhead...

Why do people keep coming close to wrecks with live warheads in them :(. IMO the government on both sides should send out PSAs on the danger of drone/aircraft wrecks
 

N00B

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Most recently in the Pakistan forums, the reports are coming out that the pilot being captured is fake news. This is probably likely, as India would have to be some kind of extra stupid to fly into Pakistan airspace after yesterday. It wouldn't shock me though, if Pakistan was intentionally suppressing this information if the pilots were indeed captured. End of day, I doubt they truly want this conflict to drag too much longer or escalate. A captured IAF rafale pilot would add another layer of humiliation, forcing India into more escalation, thus releasing the information publicly at this moment is not conducive to ending this conflict soon. Still, more than likely it's fake news.

After 2019, neither side is mad enough to cross over. If any jet is downed by a BVR missile, it will come down on their respective side.
 

BillRamengod

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The Pakistani military spokesperson is currently holding a press conference.

He's saying that the official claim remains the same on their side for kills:

3x Rafale
1x Su-30MKI
1x MiG-29UPG
1x UCAV

They also claim they have audio clips of the Rafale pilot panicking in the cockpit – his call sign was Godzilla

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Key details from yesterday's Pakistani military briefing on the air combat timeline:

00:10 HRS
– PAF detected IAF fighter jets mobilizing near the LoC across northern and central sectors.
00:12 HRS – Within 2 minutes, PAF initiated pre-planned contingency measures.
00:23 HRS – Pakistani jets executing Defensive Counter-Air (DCA) missions were scrambled.
00:30 HRS – IAF completed offensive formation across 4 axes near LoC. Initial force: 60 jets (incl. 14 Rafales), later reinforced to 72 aircraft.

00:37 HRS – PAF DCA fighters engaged IAF incursions. Pakistan deployed 42 advanced jets to defend airspace, with civilian flights evacuated from projected engagement zones.

Rules of Engagement Shift: After IAF launched air-to-ground weapons, PAF Chief ordered escalation from deterrence to lethal engagement. "Since India boasted endlessly about Rafale's superiority, we prioritized targeting them—hence their disproportionate losses," the briefing stated.

Unprecedented Scale: The hour-long dogfight involved mass Beyond-Visual-Range (BVR) exchanges with unprecedented missile volleys.


PAF disclosed 6 confirmed IAF kills (Fig.2):

  1. Mig-29: 38km at 243° from Srinagar (~15km to LoC)
  2. Su-30MKI: 35km at 192° from Srinagar (~46km to LoC)
  3. Rafale: 77km at 144° from Srinagar (100km to LoC)
  4. Drone: 30km at 342° from Jammu (~35km to LoC)
  5. Rafale: 24km at 114° from Jammu (~13km to LoC)
  6. Rafale: 46km at 288° from Bhatinda (~42.6km to border)

Intercepted Rafale squadron comms (audio played):
Lead
: "Godzilla 4, read you loud. Where’s Godzilla 3?"
Godzilla 4: "Godzilla 4 nominal. Checking Godzilla 3’s status—"
Godzilla 4 (later): *"GODZILLA 4 REPORTING... (Rafale) JUST EXPLODED MID-AIR! REPEAT, EXPLODED!"*
 
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