The Kashmir conflict 2025.

SinoaTerrenum

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The global supply chain shift to India will be successfully curtailed by India. No Chinese interference needed.
This takes months/years to play out, but the damage to China will be more immediate when companies are signalling supply chain exits from China, even if these exits don’t materialize or take longer to execute (look at Luxshare & rest of Apple supply chain stocks after the tariffs started + Apple’s plan to produce 1/3 of iPhones in India). Vietnam/ASEAN are too small, India on paper looks to have potential, and we need to nip even the thought of moving supply chains to India - this needs ground offensives/wider conflict.
 

AndrewJ

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Oh, TWZ is shitting again ...

Is TWZ indian media? Why their written stuff is exactly consistent with Indian official propaganda? Meanwhile strongly suspect any claims by Paki officials? Even huge amount of evidence are already widely spread, suggesting which side has most inconsistency with official claims, which side is lying. :rolleyes:

There are lots of claims & visuals from both sides, which are often contradictory. So it's too early to judge anything.

Are you kindergarten kids? You can't judge which are right & legit? Or if you do any easy & objective judgements, it'll quickly conclude to Indian's total failure & incompentence, and Chinese weapons' incredible capacity superiority? If western equipments win, it's ground truth. If western equipments fail, it's all Chinese propoganda. :)

Meanwhile, "India has Europe-made Meteor AAM, which is better than China-made PL-15" is repeatly emphasized in every TWZ's article. What's the point? Isn't it more embarrassing?

RUSI
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that the PL-15 “out-ranges the US-made AIM-120C/D AMRAAM series and has a comparable maximum range
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.” The same source notes, however, that the pan-European Meteor likely has a much larger no-escape zone and better long-range kill probability thanks to its ramjet motor. Regardless, the PL-15 provides Pakistan with a weapon that is at least comparable to the most capable AAMs employed by India.

Oh, I get it. US supports Israel, and Israel supports India. So US supports India. :p

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This takes months/years to play out, but the damage to China will be more immediate when companies are signalling supply chain exits from China, even if these exits don’t materialize or take longer to execute (look at Luxshare & rest of Apple supply chain stocks after the tariffs started + Apple’s plan to produce 1/3 of iPhones in India). Vietnam/ASEAN are too small, India on paper looks to have potential, and we need to nip even the thought of moving supply chains to India - this needs ground offensives/wider conflict.
Wrong thread to discuss this, but no. You don't understand the structure of the Chinese economy and fail to see its trajectory. These examples you use are actually economic activities China has been trying to outsource anyways and comprise less than half a percentage point of GDP.
 

totenchan

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Oh, TWZ is shitting again ...

Is TWZ a indian media? Why their written stuff is exactly consistent with Indian official propaganda? Meanwhile strongly suspect any claims by Paki officials? Even huge amount of evidence already are widely spread, suggesting which side has most inconsistency with official claims, which side is lying. :rolleyes:



Are you kindergarten kids? You can't judge which are right & legit? Or if you do any easy & objective judgements, it'll quickly conclude to Indian's total failure & incompentence, and Chinese weapons' incredible capacity supermacy? If western eqiupments win, it's ground truth. If western equipments fail, it's all Chinese propoganda. :)

Meanwhile, "India has Europe-made Meteor AAM, which is better than China-made PL-15" is repeatly emphasized in every TWZ's article. What's the point? Isn't it more embrassing?



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While RUSI and TWZ are dogshit and not reliable sources for anything Chinese related, there is an interesting discussion to be had regarding the merits of ramjet versus dual pulse.
 

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comment from bilibili:

“The Frenchies are insufferably arrogant.

Last year at the Zhuhai Airshow, I happened to chat with two French naval attachés, those Parisian Frenchies literally dropped some hot shit takes like "Drones are useless", "055 can't compare to Aquitaine", and "Can you even afford to vacation in Paris?"

Now seeing the Rafale get shredded into a ragged cloth by the J-10CE is absolutely karmic justice for the French. Even before those Thales-made electronic systems on that Rafale failed to detect anything, the French who built and operated them were already psychologically blind.”
 

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Oh, TWZ is shitting again ...

Is TWZ a indian media? Why their written stuff is exactly consistent with Indian official propaganda? Meanwhile strongly suspect any claims by Paki officials? Even huge amount of evidence already are widely spread, suggesting which side has most inconsistency with official claims, which side is lying. :rolleyes:



Are you kindergarten kids? You can't judge which are right & legit? Or if you do any easy & objective judgements, it'll quickly conclude to Indian's total failure & incompentence, and Chinese weapons' incredible capacity superiority? If western eqiupments win, it's ground truth. If western equipments fail, it's all Chinese propoganda. :)

Meanwhile, "India has Europe-made Meteor AAM, which is better than China-made PL-15" is repeatly emphasized in every TWZ's article. What's the point? Isn't it more embrassing?



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Aren't they supposed to be Anti China?

They will do anything to side against China I guess. Even backing sides they deep down know are full of crap.
 

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Oh, TWZ is shitting again ...

Is TWZ indian media? Why their written stuff is exactly consistent with Indian official propaganda? Meanwhile strongly suspect any claims by Paki officials? Even huge amount of evidence are already widely spread, suggesting which side has most inconsistency with official claims, which side is lying. :rolleyes:



Are you kindergarten kids? You can't judge which are right & legit? Or if you do any easy & objective judgements, it'll quickly conclude to Indian's total failure & incompentence, and Chinese weapons' incredible capacity superiority? If western equipments win, it's ground truth. If western equipments fail, it's all Chinese propoganda. :)

Meanwhile, "India has Europe-made Meteor AAM, which is better than China-made PL-15" is repeatly emphasized in every TWZ's article. What's the point? Isn't it more embarrassing?



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They don’t call it the Cope Zone cause it’s fair and unbiased…
 

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What Pakistan doing right now is affecting the perception of Indias business stability; to affect material reality they would need to strike power plants in the south “(tamil nadu, bengalore, etc) which would be a huge escalation and a pretty transparent puppetry act by China. This isn’t needed because India itself is a quagmire for FDI.
Pakistan's real enemy is north India. South Indians already have rifts against the north.

Like Pakistan's principal adversary, India, Turkey's principal adversary, Greece, also operates the Dassault Rafale.

So are you implying that Turkic and Pakistani air forces have been exchanging notes on and sharing ELINT data from Rafales?
I don't know what they share but both have had strong military ties for decades. And just before this conflict began, late April, Turkish military cargo flights had landed in Pakistan; what they carried was undisclosed.
Interestingly, some Turkish cargo flights came in today from China via HCMC and flew right over India.

So are Pakistanis as ungovernable as the finest 2nd Amendment loving American "rednecks" and "yokels" of Appalachia, the Deep South, Idaho and Texas?
Gun culture is different in Pakistan. More like an evolution from everyone carrying a sword to everyone carrying a gun. But this is a bit of an exaggeration. It's not everyone but still a significant portion of society carries guns. Gun massacres / lone shooter type are rare, as well as general gun related homicides, unlike in America.
Indians love talking and promoting AI so much. But don't they see they will be the first ones to get replaced by AI? After all if AI is the one doing all the work for them, what they needed for?

AI does not complain, skip work, ask for pay and generally does not have significant errors in straight forward tasks.
For the most part, Grok has been responding with pro-India propaganda and it almost always references some Indian media's "Fact Check" report.

To add to your theory, the IAF AWACS might have been able to pick up the missile launches. But as they don't have high speed datalinks, they cannot warn the fighters effectively on time, which led to a bunch of planes shot down
How about the possibility that certain IAF aircraft don't have any data link with the AWACS? My hunch is the M2K, Rafale might not be integrated with the Israeli AWACS radar mounted on the A-50i. Bathinda AFS is also home to India's own very first Netra AWACS which might have turned out to be totally shit.
I read on a twt yesterday that allegedly some US mil Cargo planes flew to India from Qatar? Any info on it? Is it fake?
It's real. Late April to early May, I saw on FR24, several daily flights of USAF C-17A from al-Udeid AFB (in Qatar) to Delhi or Jaipur. Have not seen them this week. That's how I suspected something major is gonna happen.
Actually only 2. 7787 and 7788 are both an F18F that crashed on HSTruman recently. 7783 & 4 were a PAF Mirage 5 that crashed in April.
What if the ejection seat malfunctioned or did not go off? One of the videos in Bathinda had the local saying that person(s) were pulled out of the plane (and that they were shot after being pulled out).
 
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