The Kashmir conflict 2025.

Randomuser

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This Modi guy has gone insane...


Direct translation: "Pakistani youth, eat bread, otherwise my bullet is always an option."
It's only gonna get worse from here. Not just Modi but also India.

They wanted an easy cheap victory against PK. When that didn't work they had a huge sunk cost and are now doubling down on it. The idea that supapowa India can't even handle PK after all the talk is not acceptable.

We have been taught that guys like North Korea or Russia are insane. But it turns out the west has been covering the real insane guys like India and Israel.

First PK steals India only chance at gold at olympics. Then it blows up their expensive fighter jets. What's next?
 

Observer1

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Brown third-world Nazis is the perfect term for Modi's populist India.

Bangladesh should certainly arm itself, I don't want to be proven right on this in the future but it's just an easy target that fits into the Indian Nazi dream. Over 100 million Muslim population with hardly any way to defend itself and South Asian neighbour. Indian retired officials already threaten it.

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burritocannon

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The J-10CE got one of the most impressive and well documented kills in the recent decades. Even the combat records of the F-15 and F-16 are mostly Israel farming on Arab-operated 2nd and 3rd gens. None of them ever brought down an AESA equipped fighter. The J-10CE faced the most capable Western export 4.5th gen in equal to adverse conditions and won.
hang on just a second. claims like this are how we arrive at mass psychosis because we can first start off with some reasonable facts but then start carrying the logic into self-congratulatory feedback loops which then have to be supported at great expense. as well documented as the engagement was we still don't know the exact details of the shootdown and despite it being pretty nominally impressive -- this is certainly the most advanced aircraft to be shot down in a2a combat to date -- if it turns out that the indian's roe did not include shooting back then i think it's stretching the truth to be claiming that the rafale shootdown was any less lopsided than israelis vs arabs. furthermore, considering the lack of network integration of the rafale within the iaf, which any astute observer of fighter development in this day and age should recognize immediately as being a significant issue, if not the most outstandingly significant issue for the iaf, can we really say that the rafale shot down on the 7th is really representative of what a modern, western 4.5 gen air force can do?
i think its always hard to take back claims made in error so it's best policy to underclaim. it might cost a bit of pride, but what would you rather have, to lose some pride, or to lose a war?
 
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SanWenYu

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Brown third-world Nazis is the perfect term for Modi's populist India.

Bangladesh should certainly arm itself, I don't want to be proven right on this in the future but it's just an easy target that fits into the Indian Nazi dream. Over 100 million Muslim population with hardly any way to defend itself and South Asian neighbour. Indian retired officials already threaten it.

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中国和印度根本就不是一路人,中国和印度是根本的战略对立而不是战略裂痕,只是大家都一直都被其贫穷的外表蒙蔽了。

1、印度不是第三世界,也不是南方国家。印度本质上就是一个帝国主义国家。

做什么样类型的国家,不是由外界来判断的,而是由这个国家的自我认知来决定的。

印度在自我认知上就是一个帝国主义国家。印度精英从来没有认为自己是被殖民被压迫被欺凌的殖民地(而中国自认是半殖民地),而始终认为自己就是大英殖民帝国的一部分,本身就是殖民者而不是被殖民者,所以才有“继承”大英帝国遗产的思想。奴隶是没有权利继承主人财产的,只有主人的家人才有资格。它们精英的心态很象大清时期自觉维护满清统治的汉人精英,就象曾、左、胡、李和中山先生不是一路人一样。

印度在行为上也是一个帝国主义国家。印度自立国以来所做所为无一不是帝国主义的标准动作,欺凌弱小,侵略邻国,灭国绝祀,如果不是实力不济,它能把巴基斯坦和孟加拉以及缅甸都变成殖民地。所谓的大婆罗多蓝图,怎么看都是大英殖民帝国的翻版。

2、贫穷不是第三世界或者南方国家的定义,被压迫被欺凌被掠夺才是。

印度是个穷国这没错,但它是冒充南方世界的北方国家、打着第三世界旗号的帝国主义国家,一个乞丐帝国主义国家,既有帝国主义的蛮横霸道也有乞丐的贫穷无赖。印度假装自己是南方世界的目的仅仅是想要做南方世界的老大方便去和其他帝国主义国家竞争,它的“南方世界”是不包括它周围真正的南方国家的。

3、中国一直坚持反对帝国主义,但印度一直坚持要做帝国主义,中印之间的战略定位始终就是完全对立的。

中国始终坚持无论国家大小实力强弱一律平等,印度始终坚持从实力和地位出发说话,中国一直反对压迫霸凌掠夺其他国家,印度一直压迫霸凌掠夺周边国家。

我实在看不出,中国和印度有什么在核心价值观上一致的地方。印度顶多在面对其他帝国主义压迫时不得不和偶尔我们合作一下,只要其他帝国主义放松对印度的打压,印度立马就恢复了它自己也是帝国主义的本来面目。

4、结论,我们应当从根本上改变认知,明确印度就是一个帝国主义国家,不管它有多穷,调整我们的策略,不能把它视为可以团结的南方世界,只能把它看作可以利用的反动势力,就象英国、加麻大,以及国民党反动派里的桂系、阎系。
 

AssassinsMace

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The first 4.5 vs 4.5 Gen fighter battle in the world and the West doesn’t frame it that way… Yes Pakistani fighter pilots are good and are due their credit but denying the Chinese component is absurd. The so-called experts have long been saying Chinese fighters are no match for any Western fighter in any scenario and this proves how they’re all wrong and just letting their petty prejudices rule over how they think. And it’s not just Indian capabilities in question. If that F-18 Growler incident against the Chinese navy kill chain incident recently reported is true, then the US shouldn’t be dangerously bullshitting themselves too. The US barely talks about it like Indians too. It’s all about the kill chain… The West is in denial just like what was reported at that world sniper competition when the Chinese team won. All the Western and allied teams got together and gossiped like petty high school girls and whispered the Chinese cheated and also said they won because they were using Western sniper rifles. Then the next time Chinese brought Chinese sniper rifles and won again. All of the sudden skill has nothing to do with it?
 

neutralobserver

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The first 4.5 vs 4.5 Gen fighter battle in the world and the West doesn’t frame it that way… Yes Pakistani fighter pilots are good and are due their credit but denying the Chinese component is absurd. The so-called experts have long been saying Chinese fighters are no match for any Western fighter in any scenario and this proves how they’re all wrong and just letting their petty prejudices rule over how they think. And it’s not just Indian capabilities in question. If that F-18 Growler incident against the Chinese navy kill chain incident recently reported is true, then the US shouldn’t be dangerously bullshitting themselves too. The US barely talks about it like Indians too. It’s all about the kill chain… The West is in denial just like what was reported at that world sniper competition when the Chinese team won. All the Western and allied teams got together and gossiped like petty high school girls and whispered the Chinese cheated and also said they won because they were using Western sniper rifles. Then the next time Chinese brought Chinese sniper rifles and won again. All of the sudden skill has nothing to do with it?
It's just plain old racism. It's hard for them to come to terms with the fact that China has leapfrogged them in various fields. I'd say its good for China if Westoids continue to underestimate China.
 

LanceD23

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India media is questioning whether China has directly and indirectly helping Pakistan in the current conflict. I thought its highly hypocritical.

So, I wrote an email letter to bunch of indian news and indian government body as well to other countries too.
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India is questioning whether China has directly or indirectly helping Pakistan against India. Well, this question is a Moot point.

China knows its chinese citizens working at infrastructure project at Pakistan killed by Balochistan terrorists were sponsored by India.
The captured Balochistan terrorists have made confessions of link and financial sponsorship from india.
China knows India wants to destroy China's Belt and Road Project CPEC at Pakistan. So, there's no need to hide. Be a man and come out to declare it.

So it's hypocritical and Silly for India to ask this question whether China has helped Pakistan to go against India.

Dont even ask!
 
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