The Kashmir conflict 2025.

siegecrossbow

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Gay guy’s analysis is so eloquent that I almost cried…
西方媒体虽然不是完全不吱声,但也是尽可能不高调报道的。我们都不难想象,假如这次的战果是反过来J-10CE被阵风击落,那么外媒和社交平台上的西方军事博主们可是恨不得拿个喇叭挨家挨户通知的。

之前六代机首飞的那天我说过,以美国为首的西方白人世界的整个优越感很大程度上依靠长年的空中优势来支撑。如果承认空中优势也可以来自中国,那么他们自己就不再是高高在上的地上神国了。

其实即使是面对当年的苏联和现在的俄罗斯,西方也是极尽所能否认毛子有任何在空中势均力敌的可能性。如果有西方战机型号被干掉,他们宁可承认是被防空导弹甚至高射炮打掉的,也觉得比承认被苏俄战机击落要好点。

比起黄皮肤的中国人,西方列强甚至宁愿接受空优被俄国人掌控,再怎么对立起码同样是白皮肤。维持西方战机空战不败的神迹,对白人世界优越性叙事至关重要。“中国战机和导弹很厉害”这的念头一旦被接受并传播,在他们眼里简直如灾难一般可怕,远超这次空战本身的影响。

这就是为什么大家现在能看到西方人集体扭捏作态的原因,此乃动摇根基之事,心理上根本无法承受。所以这样的事情还应该多一点,难受也得受着,时间长了他们就习惯了
 

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Xiongmao

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Every Indian is celebrating this. So do we have confirmation that the debris only has limited value? Many Indians are claiming it's completely intact, unexploded, without a single part missing. And because of this, China won't sell J-35 to Paki, to punish them & prevent more tech leak. :oops:
To be honest, as China's technological abilities overtake the West, technology transfers like this will become more and more commonplace, so just need to get used to it. A lot of know-how was transferred to China over the past 50 years and so the direction will reverse soon enough.
 

neutralobserver

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To be honest, as China's technological abilities overtake the West, technology transfers like this will become more and more commonplace, so just need to get used to it. A lot of know-how was transferred to China over the past 50 years and so the direction will reverse soon enough.
Indians don't really have the industrial base to create something like PL-15. If they had the capability, couldn't they re-produce Meteor instead of paying millions for 300+ missiles? Just buy a couple and re-produce?
 

zyklon

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Got it. So that makes J-10C/PL-15 even more superior.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LessCredibleDefence/comments/1kidjjx

This guy sounds like Ben Hodges talking about Ukrainians.

TBF his "assessment" sounds pretty arbitrary, and may reflect more upon select personal experiences rather than any sort of institutional consensus.

Interestingly, Chuck Yeager, the USAF BG credited as the first pilot to break the sound barrier thought rather highly of the PAF.

 

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Indians don't really have the industrial base to create something like PL-15. If they had the capability, couldn't they re-produce Meteor instead of paying millions for 300+ missiles? Just buy a couple and re-produce?
Before May 7th: Boasted their indigenous ASTRA Mk.2 had "far surpassed" China's PL-15.

After May 7th: Clutched PL-15E wreckage like discovering holy relics.
 
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