The "India vs China" threads encourage vitriolic slander and should be removed

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Lethe

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I think that political comments and discussions are inevitable given the subject matter of this forum, and that to stifle such discussion would be counter-productive.

At the same time I have occasionally been disappointed to encounter posts that go beyond criticising particular governments, policies or developments to express bigoted views about entire countries, cultures, peoples or religions. Unfortunately, threads here about India do seem to be the worst in this regard. It is probably true that the problem is worse in most other discussion fora, such as attitudes towards China on DFI or F-16.net or whatever. SDF is pretty good, with most posters able to conduct themselves appropriately, but that is not an excuse for complacency.

Beyond reporting particularly objectionable posts as they occur, it may be that the forum could benefit from clearer guidelines as to what is and isn't acceptable, but that would require moving beyond the current "gray zone" policy towards political discussion in the first place. I grant that it is not clear that it would be worth the effort. One idea would to have a brief reminder associated with each post as to the standards of behaviour that are expected. For example, in the text box for a new post you could have default text to the effect that SDF is a place for polite discussions between members of all nationalities and that bigoted content will not be tolerated. The text would disappear when the poster started typing. Or it could be in a post confirmation dialogue box or as a message that pops up when visiting the board for the first time each day. I think even minor, brief prompts like that can help people to step back and re-evaluate what they are posting.
 
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Mohsin77

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2 cents:
  1. Regarding 'forbidding' politics: "War is the extension of politics, by other means." So forbidding politics on a defense forum would be like forbidding Math on a Physics forum, when Math is the language of Physics.
  2. However, just like in a Physics forum, Math alone isn't enough, and so on a Defense forum, Politics alone should not be enough. If a member is only here to discuss politics, without any interest in the military dimension, they're simply in the wrong forum and should be considered in breach of protocol.
Practical example: If someone is ranting and raving about launching 'massive counter offensives' without any understanding of what that entails, that's a problem. Because their political POV is not backed up with technical knowledge of the military dimension, and the whole thing becomes nonsense. However, if they provide a technical basis for their argument, well, that's fair game on a defense forum.
 

solarz

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2 cents:
  1. Regarding 'forbidding' politics: "War is the extension of politics, by other means." So forbidding politics on a defense forum would be like forbidding Math on a Physics forum, when Math is the language of Physics.
  2. However, just like in a Physics forum, Math alone isn't enough, and so on a Defense forum, Politics alone should not be enough. If a member is only here to discuss politics, without any interest in the military dimension, they're simply on the wrong forum and should be considered in breach of protocol.
Practical example: If someone is ranting and raving about launching 'massive counter offensives' without any understanding of what that entails, that's a problem. Because their political POV is not backed up with technical knowledge of the military dimension, and the whole thing becomes nonsense. However, if they provide a technical basis for their argument, well, that's fair game on a defense forum.

Instead of banning people for politics, we should be banning people for repeatedly posting debunked misinformation.
 

Mohsin77

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Instead of banning people for politics, we should be banning people for repeatedly posting debunked misinformation.
I've suggested a source-ban before. Just have a list of sources like certain blogs/facebook/youtube channels etc. which are banned. If they are posted it should trigger a warning.
 

Mohsin77

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What if they don't provide any sources and just post the same crap over and over again?

...?

That's a penalty on any decent forum, not just a defense forum.

We're discussing a problem specific to a defense forum.

Besides, there are a bazillion sources of misinformation out there. You can't list them all.
You don't have to. The list can keep growing as people post from unreliable sources.
 

jfy1155

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Not just SDF but all the popular sites like Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc. Thanks to cheap export Chinese made phones and low cost internet, people in that country can go online.
 

nlalyst

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Honestly asking where this forum exists where the majority of its users don't think Chinese people are subhuman that only know how to follow orders and copy. Has to be in English, obviously.
I can recommend CDF. They discuss a wide range of China related topics and the discussions are quite civil, especially so in the military subforums.
 
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