The Greatest Emperor: Qin Shi Huang.
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sumdud said:
Still quite inappropriate. By the time the killings started, the first emperor was arguably going crazy. Last time I checked, no court in the world would convict a nutcase.
Red-Star said:
Sent them yes. What become of them is anybody's guess. Becoming the Japanese is a legend at best.
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In my opinion qinshihuang may be brutal but he was the person that created China.
Before him, the piece of land now called China is many states comparable to Europe. Had he not united China, it would be something like Europe today, the different states sharing the same roots but quite different from each other.
Indeed, Japan and Korea are very good examples. In the past, Japan was a part of China until it seperated. Korea was not part of China but it almost became part of it(it did not assimilate into china becos it had its own written language invented in time). Supposedly Qinshihuang did not unite China, then you would find many many "Japans" and "Koreas" in the northeast asia today.
So how can the 'creator' of the country not be the greatest?
Before him, the piece of land now called China is many states comparable to Europe. Had he not united China, it would be something like Europe today, the different states sharing the same roots but quite different from each other.
Indeed, Japan and Korea are very good examples. In the past, Japan was a part of China until it seperated. Korea was not part of China but it almost became part of it(it did not assimilate into china becos it had its own written language invented in time). Supposedly Qinshihuang did not unite China, then you would find many many "Japans" and "Koreas" in the northeast asia today.
So how can the 'creator' of the country not be the greatest?
BLUEJACKET
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was never part of China although formaly chinese emperor was recognized as the main figure by many in the Far East, and the Japanese borrowed many of China's ideas.
Part of what is now was colonized by the Chinese, but it never became part of China either, even though the people there were greatly influenced by the Chinese. was ruled by China for about 1K years but had many rebellions, repelled Kubilay Khan invasion and never became part of China (or any other empire, for that matter!). The left Southern China and settled in what is now Thailand, an independent kingdom - the only Asian country that never got colonized by outsiders. was colonized by the mainlanders & Japan but was always on the fringe and a base for pirates/rebels. In China itself, regionalism is strong, with many mutually unintelligable languages (called dialects). Only the written characters/measures/money are the same, and there is only one time zone from Sinkiang & Tibet to Harbin & Hong Kong.
I've read this saying about China: "what's devided must unite; what's united must devide!" In his young years, Mao Ze Dong
And how many Chinese were sent during his reign to their early grave during the -anyone?
So, we can argue both ways- the unified China is a good thing, or maybe, in the long run, isn't so good or even a very bad thing! If the written language, measures, money, , and the are the only things that unites the country, one day it may fall like a house of cards!
On the subject of discoveries by the Chinese, check these books:
PALE INK, Two Ancient Records of Chinese Exploration in America
and : How the Chinese discovered America
When China Ruled the Seas: The Treasure Fleet of the Dragon Throne, 1405-1433
BUDDHIST MISSION VISITS AMERICA BEFORE COLUMBUS
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Qin Shi Huang
Qin means Qin dynasty
Shi means the first
Huang means king
Qin Shi Huang name is Ying Zheng （嬴政）
I'm personally of the opinion that Qin Shi Huang invented China. If it weren't for him, China would have ended up like Europe, with each of the individual states developing their own unique cultures.
Japan was never part of China. Parts of Korea were temporarily under Chinese control, but even the Great Tang couldn't beat the Koreans. Weird.
Japan was never part of China. Parts of Korea were temporarily under Chinese control, but even the Great Tang couldn't beat the Koreans. Weird.
chinese general geographic features created china, not single individuals, If it wuoldn't have been Qin Shi Huang....it would have been someone else
well movments of nations are always huge motions are not inflicted by the acts of individuals but societies themselves. Its generally aknowlidged fact that geology of china has been really favorable to form strong and united complexes and thats the reason why china managed to rise as first reall super power.
But if speaking of factors that forges nations, you really cannot go much deeper reason, becouse all those proximate reasons that some guy did something can be tracked back to the bigger reasons.
If it wouldnt have happened then, I dont believe that there would have born any suprise conditions that would have prevented the creation of united reing, those reasons or elements would have born before Qin Shi Huang, if they were mented to born in china at any place
But if speaking of factors that forges nations, you really cannot go much deeper reason, becouse all those proximate reasons that some guy did something can be tracked back to the bigger reasons.
If it wouldnt have happened then, I dont believe that there would have born any suprise conditions that would have prevented the creation of united reing, those reasons or elements would have born before Qin Shi Huang, if they were mented to born in china at any place