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Baibar of Jalat

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Irans said it has launched a radar dodging long range missle.
What do guys think of the claim??

Take not of bottom of article when it talks about new ballistic missile of NK origion.

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Iran fires missile that can evade radar:


TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's armed forces on Friday successfully test fired a domestically produced missile which can evade radar, state television reported, a development analysts said could be worrying for Western forces in the Gulf.

Western nations have been watching developments in Iran's missile capabilities with concern amid a standoff over the Iranian nuclear program, which the West says is aimed at building atomic bombs. Iran says the program is civilian.


"The missile command of the air force of the Revolutionary Guards has successfully tested a new generation of missiles," Hossein Salami, head of the Revolutionary Guards air force, told state television.

"This missile can evade radar and it can evade anti-missile missiles," he said.

"This technology is completely new, without copying any other missile systems that may exist in other countries," he said, adding that the missile could carry multiple warheads.

Television had said the type of missile tested was called Fajr-3 but Salami did not name the new weapon or give the missile's range, saying it depended on the warhead weight. He said it was a defensive weapon.

The U.S.-based military affairs Web site globalsecurity.org describes the Fajr-3 as a 240 mm artillery rocket with a 25-mile range, one of a group of light rockets Iran has developed mainly for tactical use on the battlefield.

However, it also says Iran has been working on another missile, called the Kosar, that would be undetectable by radar and designed to sink ships in the Gulf.

"WORRYING FOR WEST"

Accompanying the report of the test, state television showed footage of a single missile being launched from land. The television report also described it as a "long-range missile."

Iranian officials could not be reached for more details.

Lee Willett, head of the military capabilities program at London's Royal United Services Institute, a defense think-tank, said the missile could be a worry for Western navies in the Gulf, wary of threats that could cut off shipping lanes.

"It is potentially a significant issue for coalition forces in the Gulf because there is a very important focus amongst the coalition navies on maritime security operations both at and from the sea, with a particular interest in what is happening from Iran," Willett said.

The test was part of a week of Iranian naval manoeuvres that started on Friday and were due to take place in the Gulf and Sea of Oman. Ground and air forces are also taking part in the wargames to show Iran's "defensive capabilities," the official IRNA news agency reported.

Diplomats in Europe said this month that Iran was stepping up development of missiles capable of carrying atomic warheads. An Iranian official denied the charge.

The diplomats, citing an intelligence report, said the program included plans to arm Iran's Shahab-3 missiles, which experts believe has a maximum range of around 2,000 km (1,240 miles), with nuclear warheads.

Experts say North Korea has been key to Iran's missile development. A German diplomat in February said Iran has purchased 18 disassembled BM-25 missiles with a range of about 2,500 km from North Korea.

The Iranian exiled opposition group, the National Council of Resistance in Iran, has also said Iran was working on developing so-called Ghadr missiles, with a range of up to 3,000 km (1,864 miles).

also heres info on wargames

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P.S Sorry for the hadline being so sensationalist thought it might get more attention
 
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IDonT

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Ahhh another propaganda BS. What exactly does radar evading mean?

Going from importing Silkworm to creating their own "radar evading" missiles is an unbelievable leap.
 

FreeAsia2000

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Re: Iran's superweapon

IDonT said:
Ahhh another propaganda BS. What exactly does radar evading mean?

Going from importing Silkworm to creating their own "radar evading" missiles is an unbelievable leap.

Radar evading ? is this a cruise missile or a some type of ICBM with mirv warhead ? otherwise it's BS

Kosar

Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics (MODAFL) spokesman Mohammad Reza Imani told AP on 01 June 2004 that Iran is building its first stealth missile -- a rocket that can evade radar detection -- although he did not give a range. Parts of the missile, known as Kosar, were on show at a Tehran fair showing MODAFL products to government officials. The missile, designed "for defensive purposes" and comparable to the cruise missile, is built by MODAFL's Aerospace Industries Organization. It can be launched against ships from land, ship, or air and is designed with the geography of the Persian Gulf and the Oman Sea in mind. The missile can sink "small and medium-sized naval vessels" should it strike them.

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Why don't we have info on the items below ? FL-9

Report: Missiles developed by China 'identical' to Iran's

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, January 28, 2005

LONDON – China is marketing missiles it earlier designed for Iran.

China's Hongdu Aviation Industry Group has exhibited three variants of two new guided missiles that were designed and developed for Iran, the London-based Jane's Defence Weekly reported.

The United States has expressed concern over Chinese missile and nuclear exports to Iran. In January, the Bush administration imposed sanctions against eight Chinese companies for helping Iran with its missile programs.

China has become a leading supplier of missile systems and technology for Iran. Iran has claimed several Chinese missiles as its own, including the C-701 anti-ship missile.

The anti-ship missiles, displayed at the China Air Show 2004 in November 2004, were identified as the JJ/TL-6B, JJ/TL-10A and KJ/TL-10B.

Industry sources said the Chinese missiles are identical to Iran's Nasr and Kosar, also known as the TL-6 and TL-10. The TL-10 and C-701 missiles were said to be part of Iran's Kosar program, Middle East Newsline reported.

The sources said brochures by the state-owned Iran Aerospace Industries Organization contain photographs of the Iranian missiles that were identical to those exhibited in China.

"It is now clear that two missile programmes revealed a few years ago by China National Aero Technology Import & Export Co (CATIC) - the FL-8 and FL-9 - were the TL-10 and TL-6, respectively, under yet another name," the article stated.

"We have long had concerns about Iran's development of longer-range ballistic missiles and Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "The penalties mean the companies will not be able to do business with U.S. government departments or agencies, and that American technology cannot be exported to the companies."

At the China Air Show, China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation displayed a radar-guided version of the C-701, dubbed C-701R. China Aerospace is the parent of China Precision Machinery Import Export Co.

The range of the C-701R was said to be 25 kilometers and contains a longer body. The missile has a radar seeker that replaces the electro-optical seeker of the C-701T.

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Baibar of Jalat

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If you had the capacity could you put stealth features on cruise missile like Rader absorbing material to me it sounds really simple to do.

Has it already been done or am i quoting SCI FI movie weapons.???

seriously
If it is bullshit or not the US and Israel have to take it seriously.
 
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Su-34

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Come on guys. If this claim is meant to discourage anyone from attacking Iran, the Iranians might as well overexaggerate the number of Shahab-3 missiles that they currently possess. I think that claim is genuine, and Iran do have MIRV-ed Shahab misiles with decoys and stealthy paint.
 

MIGleader

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Re: Iran's superweapon

IDonT said:
Ahhh another propaganda BS. What exactly does radar evading mean?

Going from importing Silkworm to creating their own "radar evading" missiles is an unbelievable leap.

Last time I checked, silkworms could evade pac-3 radar:roll:

Anyhow, Iran has more advanced missles now. It has imported c-802;s from China. in their recent military parades, they have demonstrated a new variety of home made tactical ballistic missles, one of which could be the on mentioned here.
 

Sea Dog

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Baibar of Jalat said:
If you had the capacity could you put stealth features on cruise missile like Rader absorbing material to me it sounds really simple to do.

Has it already been done or am i quoting SCI FI movie weapons.???

seriously
If it is bullshit or not the US and Israel have to take it seriously.

Actually the Tomahawk Block IV low-observable missile is by all intents and purposes a stealth missile. The AGM-129C also is considered a stealth cruise missile.

As far as this new Iranian missile. I don't discount the story. But then again, I don't give it much creedence either. I'm waiting for more facts and withholding judgements. It might be very well true. We'll see.
 

Kampfwagen

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Naturaly, I wouldint take anything Iran says without serious skeptisism. Call it liberal western skeptisism, but I just dont think we can take anything Iran says seriously without concrete proof.
 

bd popeye

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Kampfwagen said:
Naturaly, I wouldint take anything Iran says without serious skeptisism. Call it liberal western skeptisism, but I just dont think we can take anything Iran says seriously without concrete proof.

I agree with our German friend. I take what they say with skeptsism. Baibar said it best..they US and Isreal better watch them closely. If they do have such a missile why would they be telling potential enemies they have such a weapon? I saw the aledged firing of this missle on Tv this evening. It looked very unsofisicated. It was in a multipule launcher. The Iranians did not, on the news report I saw, release much info on the new missile.

Iran is conducting a large scale excersise....

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Iran To Stage Massive Gulf Military Maneuver
Farhad Pouladi, AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Thu, 30 Mar 2006, 01:24

Tehran: Thousands of Iranian troops will on Friday start a week-long military maneuver in the Gulf to ready armed forces for warding off "threats", a senior commander announced on state television.

The commander of the navy of Revolutionary Guards Corps, Rear Admiral Mostafa Safari, did not specify the nature of the threat although the maneuver comes amid increasing tensions with the West over Tehran's nuclear programme.

"The Revolutionary Guards Corps navy and air force in collaboration with (Iran's regular) army, navy, (the volunteer militia) Basij, and the Iranian police will start a maneuver from 31 March until 6 April in the Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman," he said.

Iran has two armed forces in which both have their own ground, naval and air force all under the command of Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

He added: "We hope ... We will gain the necessary and needed readiness to decisively reply to any kind of threats."

"More than 17,000 soldiers and sailors will be used, along with 1,500 different kind of vessels, in addition to the different sorts of jet fighter planes, choppers and different missiles," he added, but did not say whether Iran will use its ballistic missiles.

Iran has medium-range Shahab-3 missiles with the capability of 2,000 kilometers (1,280 miles), able of hitting arch-enemy Israel and US bases across the Middle East.

"The exercise will cover an area stretching from the northern tip of the Persian Gulf all the way to the port city of Chah-Bahar in the Sea of Oman extending 40 kilometers (25 miles) into the sea," he said.

In addition, the spokesman of the maneuvers, Rear Admiral Mohammad Ebrahim Dehghan told state television that the strait of Hormouz will be one of the focal points of the exercise.

"Some 80 percent of the Persian Gulf's oil is shipped out of this strait over which Iran has dominant and accurate control," he said.

"If the enemy wants to make the area insecure, he should be rest assured that he will also suffer from the insecurity, since we know the location of their vessels," he added.

The country is currently under mounting international pressure over its disputed nuclear energy drive, alleged by Israel and the West to be cover for weapons development. Tehran denies the charges.

Top diplomats from the five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany will meet in Berlin on Thursday to map out a long-term strategy on how to contend with Iran's refusal to halt uranium enrichment, which could be used to build a nuclear bomb.

In Israel, Tehran's arch foe, however, several officials have openly hinted at the possibility of pre-emptive strikes against Iran, seen as a threat to the existence of the Jewish state.

On Wednesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned that any attempt at using force or coercion to resolve the standoff over Iran's nuclear program would be counter-productive.

"Any ideas about a coercive, forceful solution to the issue are highly counter-productive and cannot be supported," Lavrov told reporters in Moscow.

Iran's Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said nearly two months ago that Islamic republic will give an "extremely quick and destructive response" to any attack against its nuclear facilities.

However, Iran -- OPEC's second biggest oil producer -- has been sending mixed messages over whether it would use its oil exports as a weapon in the case of action from the UN Security Council.
 
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Finn McCool

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Right now Iran considers itself to be in mortal peril. It is doing whatever it can to escape detruction at the hands of Uncle Sam. Now, I don't believe that is going to happen, nor do I believe the US has the capability to destory the Iranian regime, but the Iranians believe that the US is out to destroy them. Hence the nukes. This claim is just another attempt to survive. Everything Iran does should be viewed through this lens of fearing an invasion.

As to the possibility of this "stealth missle" I would say that it is possible, especially with Russian help;) . I bet the Russians are eager to test some of their technology in the area of stealth. And what better way than through a missle? It gets blown up no matter what happens, so there is no messy international scandal to deal with. It might sound absurd, but I wouldn't put it past Putin (great alliteration by me:) ) My opinion is basically that this report is untrue.
 
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