The Chinese Special Force Basic Training And Its Effectiveness?

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pla101prc

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PLA recruits do pee blood and all, something that rarely happens in NATO armies, but NATO armies emphasize on different aspects of physical training. the reason PLA do all that running is because their infantry fighting doctrine focuses on insertion and infiltration, something you can see in the Sichuan earthquake relief. NATO army is just frontal assault. as a result we focus a lot on weight carrying (personally, cardio is still my strength. since i am asian, i suck at rucksack march). i am not sure about this but i think NATO armies also have better strength related trainings. afterall NATO soldiers look a lot bigger than PLA soldiers.
o and the marines arent as good as they say they are. their training isnt incredibly hard as portrayed in hollywood movies. just think of them as regular infantry,maybe a lil more versatile, but in terms of training intensity its all the same.
 
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sidewinder01 said:
not saying NATO are soft at all, I think they are the best equpped army in the world. In now a days, as we know, things as phyiscal fitness matters much less than before, mordern equipment has taken a far more important place in a modern warfare today. From that point of view, NATO would not be soft, it will be very hard. But as technology increases, emphasis on physical fitness decreases in normal units as its no longer as needed as before. Its like this, Why would you need to run for 30 minutes to go shopping when you can just drive there in 3 mins? The reason the chinese trained so hard that way was because most of the chinese units lack the military technology that the NATO or most modern western army has. Almost of all my elders in my family has been in different levels of military command and I grew up in the enviroment. And I do know how the West trains in term of phyiscal fitness, I have friends who joined the marine and the army and even a friend who became a green beret. For the marines, after 13 weeks of boot camp I think the passing time for 5k is around 21 to 23 mintues with very light but boots and pants on. I am no expert in military as I major in pre-med, but I do see recurits for the 38th GA ran 2 10k a day during boot camp with light weights(15kg or less) and people having internal organ damage due to overexcercise and I doubt that would happen in the US....
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oh is that physical fitness is less important well what happens when the conflict is in mountain regions were no vehicles can be used or airsupport then what. physical fitness counts. reserve troops always recieve less equipment then the fronts, and that applies to NATO nations too. its not just China. China front line troops are pretty large in numbers, and all receive sufficient funding and equipment.

your post isnt logical. its like saying why bother training for 100m sprint as hard as others when you got superior technology making clothing less drag and lighter gripping shoes. its still comes to physical fitness.

the soldier comes first not the technology. whats the use of having technology when all your soldiers are dead.
 
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pla101prc

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physical training beyond a certain point is just training of mental toughness anyways
 
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Skorzeny

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There is a reason why only I let myself be baited into this thread and not the other people that have served. :(

Military training is mostly focused on infantry skills, and that includes special forces as well. That would be things like marksmanship, contact drills, coms, patrolling, medical, OP work, Fibua etc etc. Special forces do very little "secret training", but are mostly extremely well trained in standard military skills.

Except for some running and strength training, you get endurance and strength by doing what you are supposed to do in a war.

Please don`t continue preaching about what you know nothing. It is rather obvious :)
 
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pla101prc

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Skorzeny said:
There is a reason why only I let myself be baited into this thread and not the other people that have served. :(

Military training is mostly focused on infantry skills, and that includes special forces as well. That would be things like marksmanship, contact drills, coms, patrolling, medical, OP work, Fibua etc etc. Special forces do very little "secret training", but are mostly extremely well trained in standard military skills.

Except for some running and strength training, you get endurance and strength by doing what you are supposed to do in a war.

Please don`t continue preaching about what you know nothing. It is rather obvious :)
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the fighting doctrine of the PLA is different from that of NATO. PLA soldiers needs a lot more running than NATO soldiers.
 
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sidewinder01

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kliu0 said:
Join the special forces in China....then you'll all know if its true or not. Simple as that.
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well my cousin is in it as a communication officer, they only pick 1 to 7 ppl from each infantry regiment for selection. the rest is from special units of airborn and the marines. so you have to be top 10 of a regiment to have a shot at it.
 
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pla101prc

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sidewinder01 said:
well my cousin is in it as a communication officer, they only pick 1 to 7 ppl from each infantry regiment for selection. the rest is from special units of airborn and the marines. so you have to be top 10 of a regiment to have a shot at it.
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this is something i heard dont know if its true or not. say if the special forces ask this one unit to give them 10 soldiers. obviously they want the 10 best soldiers. however, out of the 10 they get, maybe 5 of the are among the top 10, the other 5 are extremely good as well but not in the top 10s. the units wanna keep some good guys for themselves too. you cant just give all the best troops to the special forces.
 
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RedMercury

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Nor would everyone have the desire or ambition to go. Many soldiers are just working a job.
 
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Skorzeny

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kliu0 said:
Join the special forces in China....then you'll all know if its true or not. Simple as that.
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Would be considered treason since I`m serving in another country :)

If you really believe in it, try posting it at socnet, but remember to do it in the humor section :D
 
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