Terrorism against Chinese targets

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Equation

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Blackstone said:
What in this case (5,000 Uighurs fighting for ISIS in Syria) made you believe the CIA provided monetary assistance? To what end?
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They've done it before to other groups when it comes to causing chaos and rebellious intention in China or any where else. Remember the Dalai Lama and his band of terrorists back in 1957 and not to mention the Bay of Pigs operations in Cuba?o_O

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Yvrch

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Pentagon spent over $500.00 millions on Syrian groups and they didn't really knew about their true ISIS like identity until all finished and done. So CIA, being more secretive by nature, could plausibly have funded the Uighur for whatever confused reasons they found good enough to shell out funds for at some point in time.
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Blackstone

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Equation said:
They've done it before to other groups when it comes to causing chaos and rebellious intention in China or any where else. Remember the Dalai Lama and his band of terrorists back in 1957 and not to mention the Bay of Pigs operations in Cuba?o_O

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That was in the Cold War era, but conditions are very different today. China might still be reemerging, but it's already a bonafide great power, and great powers dance around each other very carefully. Overtly hostile acts, like actively supporting separatist elements, especially ones that employ terror as SOP, are too provocative and risky. I have no doubt both countries are conducting covert operations against the other, but not things that can cause innocents to die, especially not actions that could easily be traced.
 
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Equation

Lieutenant General
Blackstone said:
That was in the Cold War era, but conditions are very different today. China might still be reemerging, but it's already a bonafide great power, and great powers dance around each other very carefully. Overtly hostile acts, like actively supporting separatist elements, especially ones that employ terrorism as SOP, are too provocative and risky. I have no doubt both countries are conducting covert operations against the other, but not something that can cause innocents to die, especially not actions that could easily be traced.
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The time has change alright but the game hasn't. The CIA is just using different tactics and I won't be surprise if both China and Russia are doing it also.
 
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taxiya

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I don't have any information to link CIA with terrorists against China today (not saying there is no link). But as Equation has mentioned NGOs do have links.

Rebiya Kadeer, the head of WUC was accused by both PRC and ROC of link to ETIM which is classed as a terrorist organization by both United Nations and USA. If one does not believe PRC, one has no reason to disbelieve ROC?

She resides in Virginia, United States right now. So whose NGOs are assisting her and WUC? Her organization has offices in western Europe as well, so she has friends (NGOs) in Europe too.

Separatist is just a "nicer" cover for terrorists. Whenever a separatist kills an unrelated civilian for his/her purpose, he/she becomes a terrorist. Continue calling him/her a separatist becomes misleading.
 
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taxiya

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Equation said:
Are those Uighur terrorist coming in to join ISIS from another country and not from China? If so, than that explains the numbers and supported by NGO and CIA money.
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I think that 5000 (if true) may include both the following:
  1. Uyghurs sneak out of China. For example,
    • The Bangkok bombers
    • The "fake" Turkish passport holders stopped and deported back to China by Thailand.
    • The families who killed a Vietnamese boarder guard in Vietnam when detained for going to ME.
  2. Ethnic Uyghurs who are or has become foreign citizens for decades.
    • There are lots of them in Central Asia, they are more native to these countries for generations.
    • Europe and USA, some are immigrants from citizens of Central Asian republics. Some are from China.
It is category 2 which may has suspicious link to foreign agents because the NGOs and you-know-who behind them have much better penetrations in Central Asia and free access in the west.

The category 2 may also act on their own initiative just like a native western convert or a western born ME who is willing to blow up Paris, Stockholm and Berlin, it is no surprise these Uyghurs are going to do the same with China in the center of their mind.
 
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