Terror Attack in Paris, 13 November 2015

Brumby said:

This is an example of why the idea of taking in more Muslim refugees is a concern for many within Europe. If after two generations, the divide in culture cannot be bridged, then it would suggest to me that the differences are so deep that it may not be a practical possibility. The issue always seem to be the solutions have to be provided by others and there is a denial that the source may well be within themselves. I have lived in a Muslim country for more than 30 years and I know firsthand how easily the religion itself can be politicised

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Agreed. This is also in addition that Islam is not just a religion. In many ways Islam is also a political system and that is also why in almost all Muslim countries there are no separation of mosque and state. like you said in Islam, it can be easily politicise because it doubles as a political system as well.

Reported on Fox and sky news one attacker was a French citizen with eight previous arrest but no jail time other passports found from Syria of an attacker born in 1990 another passport was from Egypt they have not been identified as yet speculation says they entered France from Greece during recent refugee crisis this is the worst cases scenario I have worried about ever since it's been known that men of military age made up the majority of the refugees

The website of my favorite radio station says that at least two men came from Molenbeke, a part of Brussels, and that the Syrian passport is false so presumably from someone using another passport to go to some place in Greece to register falsely as a refugee.

delft said:

The website of my favorite radio station says that at least two men came from Molenbeke, a part of Brussels, and that the Syrian passport is false so presumably from someone using another passport to go to some place in Greece to register falsely as a refugee.

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I heard that, lots of blank authentic passports and related machinaries were seized by rebels in Syria after government troops lost control of cities. Anybody can acquire a technically geniune Syrian passport. Because Europe has broken diplomatic relationship and refuses to work with Syrian government, there is no way that European boarder control can tell who is who in front the influx of refugees.

I hope EU become realistic, work with Syrian government for European's own sake.

well some things never change

Blowing one's self up doesn't make it different. Killings others for one's beliefs can take all kinds of forms and that's where it's no different and not exclusive.

delft said:

The website of my favorite radio station says that at least two men came from Molenbeke, a part of Brussels, and that the Syrian passport is false so presumably from someone using another passport to go to some place in Greece to register falsely as a refugee.

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ISIS has literally thousands of legit Syrian passports to hand out to their minions. When they took the city of Raqqa, there is an immigration/passport office there with thousands of copies of blank Syrian passports. They don't even have to make any fake ones!

Just reading Fox news stated France has launched a (massive ) raid on Raqqa some twenty planes in all with eighteen being French if that's massive I wonder what small is in my mind massive means at least fifty to one hundred or say fifteen to twenty B52 at once sometimes it's better to have a really big BUFF to get your point across

kwaigonegin said:

ISIS has literally thousands of legit Syrian passports to hand out to their minions. When they took the city of Raqqa, there is an immigration/passport office there with thousands of copies of blank Syrian passports. They don't even have to make any fake ones!

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We know as a fact that ISIL is the best financed terrorist organisation we have ever seen. They have literally Billions of funds because they can generate revenue. Given that Europe's borders are so porous it would not be a problem of getting from point A to anywhere they want if there is a need. The bigger issue with the refugee problem is that once you have a significant pool of Muslim refugees within Europe, there is a huge potential source of recruits to draw from. We know the ideology (no matter how distasteful) has some degree of traction - that remains the real problem. It basically strain security resources to monitor suspicious activities from such a big pool on an ongoing basis.

kwaigonegin said:

ISIS has literally thousands of legit Syrian passports to hand out to their minions. When they took the city of Raqqa, there is an immigration/passport office there with thousands of copies of blank Syrian passports. They don't even have to make any fake ones!

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thanks, I think I got to know this from your post some days ago.