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XavNN

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@Jura this guy is from Turkey

Thanks to a reader, it was brought to our attention that instead of 8x anti-ship missiles, the LPD may actually be fitted with 16x SAM and 4x ASM in these top side launchers... I updated the article.

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Mr T said:
That would mean that Taiwan is currently paying virtually 100% of its defence budget on personnel costs. That clearly cannot be the case, otherwise Taiwan wouldn't be able to pay for any of the military equipment that hasn't just been ordered but is also arriving/being produced there. It wouldn't even be able to pay for fuel.



The UK's GDP per capita is about £30,000. We do not spend £45,000 to £60,000 on our military personnel. Privates earn £20,000 a year and Sergeants £35,000. Even if you factor in equipment and training, that doesn't come close to the sums you're imagining.

I mean, I hear that in the US the cost of maintaining personnel is very high. Perhaps it's just a thing for a number of countries where there's too much money sloshing around and people don't think carefully enough about what's necessary and what's not. Relatively speaking a lot of US personnel are treated as kings and queens with access to all sorts of luxuries on their doorsteps, whereas their British counterparts have to make do with a lot less (and always have done).
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My apologies for the truncated reply, have had a weird schedule of late.

Taipei has to spend more money on personnel, since they're already having enough problems with recruitment, since Taiwan's working age population is going to shrink, and they need to compete with high tech employers for qualified people. We Americans are already having enough trouble with cyber.

The high personnel costs aren't just for officers, you need to attract and retain high quality senior noncoms, and you have to pay top dollar for both.

Or Taipei could reinstitute an actual conscription (that's how Singapore and South Korea kept their personnel costs manageable while also having a modern arsenal), but there's unlikely for the forseeable future.
 
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XavNN said:
TADTE 2019: Latest Taiwanese Naval Projects for ROC Navy
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After the "air defense LHD" from Qatar, here is the "surface combatant LPD" from Taiwan...
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Oh jeez, and they're still thinking of that DDG white elephant?

I can understand 2 LPDs, but why did it expand to four? Two is enough for peacetime needs, since the only use a ROCN LPD has in wartime is to stay out of the Straits.
 
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Formal notification of the arms sale has gone through.

The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to TECRO for the 66 F-16C/D Block 70 aircraft and related equipment and support for an estimated cost of $8 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

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Taiwan F-16 sale officially cleared by Trump administration
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"The Trump administration has officially cleared the potential sale of F-16 fighters to Taiwan, a move expected to infuriate China but embraced by the U.S. Congress."

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China to impose sanctions on U.S. companies in case of arms sales to Taiwan
Xinhua| 2019-08-21 21:10:17
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China on Wednesday urged the United States to immediately cancel the planned arms sales to Taiwan, saying China will take all necessary measures to defend its own interests including imposing sanctions on U.S. companies involved in the planned sales.

The U.S. Defense Department on Wednesday officially notified the U.S. Congress of the plan to sell 66 F-16 fighters and relevant equipment worth around 8 billion U.S. dollars to Taiwan and to provide support.

"China firmly opposes the plan and has lodged solemn representations and protests to the U.S. side," Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told a press briefing.

The U.S. arms sales plan seriously violated international laws and basic norms governing international relations, as well as the one-China principle and the three China-U.S. joint communiques, especially the August 17 Communique, Geng said.

"[Such a move] constitutes severe interference in China's internal affairs, and undermines China's sovereignty and security interests."

The spokesman said the Taiwan question concerns China's sovereignty and territorial integrity, which is associated with China's core interests. "China has firm determination to safeguard its own national sovereignty, unity and security."

Geng urged the U.S. side to abide by the one-China principle and relevant provisions laid out in the three China-U.S. joint communiques, "immediately cancel the aforementioned arms sales plan, cease arms sales to Taiwan and sever military ties with the island."

"Otherwise, all the ensuing consequences will be born by the U.S. side," Geng added.
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Again, someone should tell Tsai that it's a lot more expensive to buy the missiles (the AMRAAMs) separately, as opposed to part of the package. Looks like they skimped on buying spare engines too, and G*d knows what else.
 
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