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Pacific Sentinel said:

US Secretary of State John Kerry reiterated Washington's commitment to helping Taiwan defend itself under the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA) and also commended a peace initiative proposed by President Ma Ying-jeou to address territorial disputes in the region.

Consistent with the TRA, "we continue to make available defense articles and services to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capability," Kerry said in a written statement in response to questions from the House Committee of Foreign Affairs.

The TRA was enacted in 1979 to maintain commercial, cultural and other unofficial relations between the US and Taiwan after Washington switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing. The TRA also requires the US "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character."

In response to questions on maritime disputes in Asia, Kerry noted that the historic fishery agreement signed between Taiwan and Japan in 2013 can serve as a model for promoting regional stability despite conflicting maritime claims. The existence of competing maritime claims "does not and should not preclude claimants from finding peaceful and effective ways to share and manage resources responsibly," he said.

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FORBIN said:

7th Fleet have 2 CG, 7 DDG

3th Fleet help also with 10 CG and 27 DDG.

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antiterror13 said:

3th fleet have 4 CG not 10

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Jeff Head said:

Sorry, antiterror, Forbin knows exactly what he is talking about. 3rd fleet does have ten.

7th fleet is stationed, forwarded deployed in Japan. It's two Ticonderoga cruisers are :

Antietam CG-54 Yokosuka, Japan
Shiloh CG-67 Yokosuka, Japan

3rd Fleet covers all of the eastern Pacific with vessels in Hawaii, California, and Washington state. Its ten Ticonderogao cruisers include:

Bunker Hill CG-52 San Diego
Mobile Bay CG-53 San Diego
Lake Champlain CG-57 San Diego
Princeton CG-59 San Diego
Chancellorsville CG-62 San Diego
Cowpens CG-63 San Diego
Chosin CG-65 Pearl Harbor
Lake Erie CG-70 San Diego
Cape St. George CG-71 San Diego
Port Royal CG-73 Pearl Harbor

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Bltizo said:

OT, but this is something I've been meaning to ask; maybe move this post to the US military thread:

Jeff, do you know of any resources that describe the composition and arrangement of the USN's DESRONs through their fleets? In particular, the DESRONs of 3rd and 7th fleets, AKA pacific fleet.

The way I understand it, DESRONs are typically assigned to particular CSGs as escorts, and each DESRON is made up of something like 8 Burke DDGs and/or a smaller number of Burkes + a number of OHP FFGs, and CSGs will also have a Tico CG as an escort as well but CGs are not included in DESRONs?

7th fleet features CSG 5 and DESRON 15 as its escort, making up the primary surface combatants and power projection capabilities of 7th fleet (i.e.: not including the amphibious assault ships)
3rd fleet OTOH is much larger with CSGs 1, 3, 9 and 11, each respectively associated with DESRON 1, DESRON 21, DESRON 9, and DESRON 23

Trawling online I'm only able to get the orbats of some of these DESRONs of pacific fleet, and I'm not even fully certain if these are the only DESRONs of pacific fleet either (am I correct to assume they are?)

Furthermore, what fraction of 3rd fleet's CSGs and associated DESRONs are normally deployed say, within the second island chain at any one time? Obviously the pacific fleet doesn't have all five CSGs and their DESRONs out there at once and even during wartime I doubt they will be able to mobilize all of them at once into a distant theatre at short notice, but the forward based nature of CSG 5 and DESRON 15 means they're always going to be there. So what of the others? Is it typically one, or two, or more additional CSGs and DESRONs in addition to that of 7th fleet's which typically operate in westpac at once?

The foundation of USN air power and surface power is obviously their carriers and escorts, so I'm trying to gauge just how vast it is in westpac during normal routine operations and what the potential surge capability is. Naturally this information will inform PLAN carrier and surface combatant requirements to an extent as well, meaning an understanding of USN capability will probably go some ways in trying to project what long term PLAN fleet goals may be as well.

Thanks!

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Jeff Head said:

Sorry, antiterror, Forbin knows exactly what he is talking about. 3rd fleet does have ten.

7th fleet is stationed, forwarded deployed in Japan. It's two Ticonderoga cruisers are :

Antietam CG-54 Yokosuka, Japan
Shiloh CG-67 Yokosuka, Japan

3rd Fleet covers all of the eastern Pacific with vessels in Hawaii, California, and Washington state. Its ten Ticonderogao cruisers include:

Bunker Hill CG-52 San Diego
Mobile Bay CG-53 San Diego
Lake Champlain CG-57 San Diego
Princeton CG-59 San Diego
Chancellorsville CG-62 San Diego
Cowpens CG-63 San Diego
Chosin CG-65 Pearl Harbor
Lake Erie CG-70 San Diego
Cape St. George CG-71 San Diego
Port Royal CG-73 Pearl Harbor

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The way I understand it, DESRONs are typically assigned to particular CSGs as escorts, and each DESRON is made up of something like 8 Burke DDGs and/or a smaller number of Burkes + a number of OHP FFGs, and CSGs will also have a Tico CG as an escort as well but CGs are not included in DESRONs?

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antiterror13 said:

Thanks Jeff, somehow I thought Forbin was talking about CBG ... my apologies to Forbin and Jeff. I read too fast

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