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U.S. Army missile defense battery arrives in South Korea

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The long-awaited U.S. Army-owned Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system has started to arrive on the Korean peninsula in pieces.

The “first elements” of the THAAD system have landed in South Korea at Yongsan Garrison in order to “solely” defend against North Korean missiles, according to a statement from U.S. Pacific Command issued late Monday night.

The statement took pains to note THAAD is “strictly a defensive system” in the wake of China’s opposition to the THAAD deployment in South Korea.

The U.S. and South Korea decided officially in July last year to deploy the THAAD system to the country as North Korea continues to conduct intermediate-range ballistic missile launches. These tests are growing in number and complexity.

The two countries had been conducting informal discussions for years on whether to deploy the system but entered into formal discussions in February 2016.

The battery will be operated by U.S. Forces Korea.

Each THAAD unit consists of six truck-mounted launchers, 49 interceptors, a fire-control and communications unit, and an AN/TPY-2 radar.

The first THAAD battery — and currently the only deployed system — was set up expediently in Guam several years ago to protect U.S. forces and allies in response to North Korean aggression. That battery appears to be there for the long haul.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
"Welcome to Korea"? Not North or South Korea?
much like the PRC ROC drama, Both North and South Korea claim theirs is only one Korea.
North Korea claims that South Korea is the product of imperial occupation by the US.
South Korea views North Korea as a rogue entity created by the occupation of the north by the Soviet Union after the end of the second world war and held in place by the Kim Regime in a authoritarian stolinist pseudo marxest monarchist farce.
 

Janiz

Senior Member
much like the PRC ROC drama
Not at all like that. North Korea's official name is: 朝鮮民主主義人民共和國 or Democratic People's Republic of Korea. South Korea's is: 大韓民國 or Republic of Korea. Of course they had to add 'Great' in front of the name of the country but Koreans from the south are well known for their megalomaniac character woth anything substatntial behind it. Chinese, Japanese and Taiwanese of course laugh at them for the name on any occasion they can get for that. North/South Korea is a coined word to keep the difference between both countries and people talking about 'Republic of Korea' don't have to ask further 'Which Republic of Korea do you mean?'. When a Korean says something about 'one Korea' you can without problem qualify him as hot headed (and delusional I must add) nationalist more or less. By no means it's considered anything like 'one China policy'.
 
China: North Korea could suspend nukes if U.S., South Korea halt drills
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China's foreign minister said Wednesday that North Korea could suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for a halt in joint U.S.-South Korea military drills, in an unusually public proposal that analysts said showed Beijing's growing alarm over the tensions.

Foreign Minister Wang Yi said frictions between the North and Washington and Seoul were like "two accelerating trains" headed at each other, with neither side willing to give way.

"The question is: Are the two sides really ready for a head-on collision?" Wang told reporters. "Our priority now is to flash the red light and apply the brakes on both trains."

Wang said China has proposed that as a first step to defusing the looming crisis, the North might halt its nuclear program development and missile testing if the U.S. and South Korea suspended their military drills.

"This suspension-for-suspension can help us break out of the security dilemma and bring the parties back to the negotiating table," Wang said, describing the approach as trying to address all parties' concerns in a "synchronized and reciprocal" manner.

North Korea first floated the proposal in 2015, but it was swiftly dismissed by Washington and Seoul, who say the two issues are unrelated. Their view is that North Korea's nuclear and missile program is in violation of U.N. resolutions whereas the joint U.S.-South Korea drills are a long-standing practice, analysts say.

Chinese scholars said Beijing has privately discussed this proposal with the countries involved but Wang's move to make it public could be a sign that China plans to take a more aggressive approach to the issue to prevent it from spinning out of control.

"China is becoming an utterly important victim of the turbulent situation on the Korean Peninsula, therefore it has unprecedentedly expressed its views in public," said Guo Rui, international relations expert at Jilin University.

China has been stepping up pressure on North Korea, its once-close Communist ally, to give up its nuclear and ballistic missile programs. Last month, Beijing suspended all coal imports from North Korea for the rest of the year, a move that deprives the North of an important source of foreign currency. Beijing wants the U.S. in return to restart long-stalled negotiations with North Korea.

Wang's move to publicize Beijing's proposal could also be directed at Washington ahead of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson's visit to China later this month.

"Raising such a proposal without seeking the views from the U.S. and South Korea will likely bring pressure to Tillerson's upcoming visit to China," said Cheng Xiaohe, an international relations expert at Renmin University in Beijing. "Talking about it publicly also indicates that China is hoping to have some achievement."

A White House official downplayed Wang's suggestion, saying China has made similar proposals in the past. The official was not authorized to discuss the policy publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The South Korean government had no immediate response to Wang's comments Wednesday.

Wang likely renewed the dual suspension proposal in the hopes that President Donald Trump might see it as an alternative approach, said John Delury, a North Korea expert at Yonsei University's Graduate School of International Studies in Seoul.

"Wang Yi is putting it out there for Trump, saying 'here's an off-ramp to the current tensions,'" Delury said in a telephone interview from Seoul.

With tensions rising again, attitudes among officials and North Korea watchers are now diverging over how to approach the North, Delury said. While some want greater engagement, others are calling for stronger measures, possibly including military action, he said.

Trump, meanwhile, has yet to articulate a clear policy toward the North, other than to tweet that he wouldn't let it obtain nuclear weapons to attack America.

"The proposal is the same, but the context is different," Delury said.

Wang, who answered a range of questions at a briefing on the sidelines of China's annual national legislative sessions, also urged South Korea to suspend deployment of a U.S. anti-missile system, saying Seoul had made a "wrong choice."

Washington and Seoul say the system is defensive and not meant to be a threat to Beijing. China is opposed to the system, saying it would allow U.S. radar to peer deep into its territory and monitor its flights and missile launches.

"We urge some forces in South Korea not to keep insisting on taking this path, otherwise the result can only be damage to others and harm to yourself," Wang said.
 

Miragedriver

Brigadier
Lose lose situation

This time, there are no reasons for Pyongyang's attitude to be any different. The sanctions will make life more difficult for North Koreans, but they will hardly deliver the intended result.

However, unintended results are likely. Feeling cornered, the North Korean government might resort to its old tactics of crisis manufacturing: first, to create a dangerous situation, and then extract concessions as a reward for their willingness to back off.

Now Pyongyang has virtually nothing to lose. After Resolution 2270, it is difficult to imagine what else can be done by the outside world to push this rogue state even harder. So, one should be prepared to see whether tough words from Pyongyang will be followed by tough action, perhaps even involving the use of arms.

Nuclear weapons are not likely to be used, of course - but given the general tensions, and oft-repeated willingness of the South Koreans to strike back mightily - even a few artillery shells might provoke a bloody confrontation.

If there is a confrontation the likelihood that Seoul will be overrun within 48 hours is very likely. Were the north can hold it is another question? I my opinion the north may make deep inroads and occupy Seoul with tremendous military and even more civilian casualties. However in the long run North Korea will lose the war and spell the end for the regime in the north.

China has not yet reached the line in the sand with the regime in the north. I also dont see them taking out “fearless leader” and installing their own puppet. The Chinese have had difficulty controlling Korea even during the three dynasty period and will not attempt to do that.

So, the decisions of the UN Security Council do not make the Korean Peninsula more secure, and they do very little towards alleviating the nuclear threat.
 
now I read THAAD May Be Operational in South Korea Next Month
The THAAD anti-missile launchers that have prompted condemnations from China and threats from North Korea could go operational in South Korea next month, according to South Korean officials.

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Gen. Vincent Brooks, commander of U.S. Forces-Korea, said in a statement that the U.S. is moving "as quickly as possible" to put the "hit-to-kill" Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system in place. South Korean military officials said the system could be functioning by April, the Yonhap news agency reported.

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, about 43 miles south of Seoul, on Monday, shortly after North Korea
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that fell into the Sea of Japan -- within Japan's exclusive economic zone, the Pentagon said.

The missile launches were seen as a response to the ongoing Foal Eagle military exercises by the U.S. and South Korea that North Korea views as a practice run for an invasion.

"The timely deployment of the THAAD system by U.S. Pacific Command and the secretary of defense gives my command great confidence in the support we will receive when we ask for reinforcement or advanced capabilities," Brooks said.

Adm. Harry Harris, head of U.S. Pacific Command, reiterated the opportune timing in a statement Tuesday. "Continued provocative actions by North Korea, to include yesterday's launch of multiple missiles, only confirm the prudence of our alliance decision last year to deploy THAAD to South Korea," he said.

U.S. and South Korean officials have stressed that the THAAD deployment is a defensive measure, but China condemned the move as a provocative act by the U.S. intended to upset the balance of power in the region.

"China firmly opposes the deployment of THAAD," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said at a briefing Tuesday. "We will definitely be taking necessary measures to safeguard our own security interest. All consequences entailed from that will be borne" by the U.S. and South Korea.

China also used an editorial in the Global Times, a tabloid published by the Communist Party's "People's Daily," to rebuke North Korean leader Kim Jong-un on the THAAD deployment.

"By firing four missiles at once this time, the military confrontation between Pyongyang, Seoul and Washington escalates a notch," Global Times said. "Noticeably, the Chinese public is angry that Pyongyang's nuclear program has provided an excuse for Seoul to deploy THAAD."

A THAAD battery normally consists of six truck-mounted launchers, 48 interceptors (eight per launcher), a fire control and communications unit, and an AN/TPY-2 radar.

The THAAD systems are slated to be set up on what had been a golf course owned by the Lotte retail conglomerate in rural Seongju county, about 184 miles south of Seoul.
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Equation

Lieutenant General
much like the PRC ROC drama, Both North and South Korea claim theirs is only one Korea.
North Korea claims that South Korea is the product of imperial occupation by the US.
South Korea views North Korea as a rogue entity created by the occupation of the north by the Soviet Union after the end of the second world war and held in place by the Kim Regime in a authoritarian stolinist pseudo marxest monarchist farce.

Actually it isn't. There is a One China Policy accepted world wide and by UN. Meanwhile the UN accepted BOTH existing North and South Korea as two separate and sovereign nations. On the other hand ROC or Taiwan is NOT, that's why it can fly its flags in the Olympics or in any UN and major international assembly.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Except what both of you are forgetting is that the North Korean's like Taiwan do not have an Olympic team but rather piggy back into the South Korean team when the North has allowed participation.
The whole division was the result of the second world war when the USSR occupied North of the 48th and the US South and both installed governments in line with themselves though aiming for a single state. And then the North's arming and invasion of the South hardening the division.

Although the North is seen given statehood this was only done to allow the signatures of the cease fire which the PRC used to it's advantage as well to force recognition of it's self and it's claim's.
North Korea as always claimed the South. And the South maintains Provencal governments in exile for the Northern Provences.
There is on both sides a one Korea Policy. So when you see official signage it welcomes to Korea even the southern national flag design makes reference to the division and North.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Except what both of you are forgetting is that the North Korean's like Taiwan do not have an Olympic team but rather piggy back into the South Korean team when the North has allowed participation.
The whole division was the result of the second world war when the USSR occupied North of the 48th and the US South and both installed governments in line with themselves though aiming for a single state. And then the North's arming and invasion of the South hardening the division.

Although the North is seen given statehood this was only done to allow the signatures of the cease fire which the PRC used to it's advantage as well to force recognition of it's self and it's claim's.
North Korea as always claimed the South. And the South maintains Provencal governments in exile for the Northern Provences.
There is on both sides a one Korea Policy. So when you see official signage it welcomes to Korea even the southern national flag design makes reference to the division and North.

But the North and South Koreans respected each other as separate nation and called on their government officials according to their respected titles whenever they meet each other or at the UN assembly. The same can't be said about the PRC and Taiwan whenever their diplomats meet. Taiwan is a rogue province governing on it's own due to the help of the US self interest to take an advantage of a poor PRC navy at the time to do anything to send troops and regain the island for it's rightful sovereignty over the decades, as a way to contain communism.
 
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