Is China still has procurement for 093A nowadays?
Sure but for know exactly... !Is China still has procurement for 093A nowadays?
I think the list can't " catch " with China .
I don't understand what you write " sure but for know exactly ", but I think , having 09V tech and still make 09III is really wasting money and timeSure but for know exactly... !
1 to 2 093A after 093B with VLS, before 2 x 093.
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https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pl...r-submarine-thread.t6883/page-124#post-459763
Philippine emissaries met on Sunday with a leader of a militant group loyal to Islamic State, officials said, taking advantage of a short truce in a battle over a southern city occupied by rebels for more than a month.
The eight Muslim leaders entered the conflict zone in the heart of Marawi City alongside rescue teams. It was not immediately clear what was discussed with Abdullah Maute, one of two brothers in charge of the Islamist group named after them.
Retired General Dickson Hermoso, who coordinates efforts to free trapped civilians, said a unilateral eight-hour truce by the army to mark the Eid al-Fitr Islamic holiday was extended to enable the talks, details of which he withheld to avoid jeopardizing chances for dialogue.
"We need to balance this because this is very precarious," Hermoso told reporters.
He said the Maute group released some women and children on Sunday and the emissaries had come under fire briefly from rebel snipers.
"We have only established a foothold with the Maute," he said. "We hope both sides will again grant us the respite."
The military had on Saturday said Abdullah Maute had fled from the town and was no longer in the fight. Though they have no solid evidence, the authorities believe his brother, Omarkhayam, was among three of the seven Maute brothers killed.
A source familiar with the meeting said the emissaries were from Marawi and were only granted access to Maute because they were of the same "Maranao" clan.
The seizure of Marawi has caused the biggest internal security crisis in decades for the Philippines, and a realization that the long-feared arrival of Islamic State could be a reality.
Images of black-clad fighters and Islamic State flags flying in Marawi has caused alarm in the mainly Roman Catholic nation, and the protracted occupation and presence of foreign fighters suggests the militants may have bigger designs on the southern Philippines than previously imagined.
The daily air strikes were halted on Sunday but small skirmishes took place as rebel snipers fired intermittently on positions held by troops.
Rescue teams tried to reach trapped civilians and recover bodies of dead residents killed in the heart of a city battered for weeks by clashes, air strikes and artillery shelling.
RESCUE AT GROUND ZERO
Military spokesman Jo-Ar Herrera said troops had not resumed operations after the truce and were holding defensive positions.
"We have reports there were around five people who came out from ground zero," Herrera told news channel ANC.
"We're very confident we can rescue more."
Muslims attended prayers at a Marawi mosque in an emotional gathering.
The violence has displaced some 246,000 people, and killed more than 350, most of them rebels, and about 69 members of the security forces. Twenty-six civilians have been killed but officials believe many more could be dead.
"This is supposed to a day of happiness," said Imam Aleem Ansari Abdul Malik, who led the prayers.
"Families should be together but they were torn apart."
He reminded Muslims to shun the advances of radical groups.
"This is just a small fire, do not allow the flames to go bigger by joining extremists," he said.
Conditions for those trapped in Marawi have been dire, with witnesses reporting bodies on streets, limited food and water and a constant threat of being killed by either the militants, or air strikes.
The threat of Islamic State gaining a foothold in the Philippines has been raised by their losses in Syria and Iraq, and intelligence reports that the militants are seeking new bases from which to project their agenda.
Though the military is confident it can retake Marawi soon, the level of the militants' preparations, combat capability and resilience has created some trepidation about whether their assault could be the beginning of a wider campaign.
Lieutenant Colonel Emmanuel Garcia, head of the Western Mindanao civil-military operations, on Saturday said intelligence indicated that Malaysian operative and extremist fundraiser Mahmud Ahmad had been killed, while Isnilon Hapilon, the Islamic State anointed "emir" of Southeast Asia, had fled.
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andreal world:
Philippine envoys talk with Islamist militant leader during brief truce
Sun Jun 25, 2017 | 8:12am EDT
Five weeks ago, militants loyal to Islamic State seized large parts of Marawi City in the southern Philippines.
As the conflict now enters its second month, government forces are still fighting to regain control.
The rebels have lost ground, but remain entrenched in what was the commercial heart of the city, with hundreds of civilians feared to be trapped and hiding among them.
Over four days in Marawi, Sky News watched the Philippine military carrying out repeated air strikes, bombers wheeling overhead and diving towards targets in the city.
The fighting is intense and sustained - mortars and helicopters mounted with machine guns are being used, as well as armoured personnel carriers and ground troops.
Philippine forces train to combat rebel groups in jungle conditions, but here they are facing close quarters, urban warfare, fighting street-to-street, at times house-to-house.
We saw armoured vehicles reinforced with planks of wood by their crews in an improvised attempt to withstand anti-tank weaponry and rocket-propelled grenades fired by the militants.
Sky News drone footage from inside rebel-held territory showed a mosque believed to be used as a base - local fighters are also said to have knowledge of tunnel networks and bomb shelters beneath the city.
The mosque has not been targeted by Philippine forces, but whole streets around it have been flattened. We saw large fires burning in the ruins.
One commanding officer told us some of the trapped civilians are being used as slaves and orderlies by the militants, with some being forced to wear black robes and act as human shields.
"Those hostages are being dressed, we have some visuals of this," Lt Col Christopher Tampus, commander of 1st Infantry Battalion told us.
"They are being dressed with a black-like robe. We believe these are civilians because we can easily see how they move."
We set out to reach a family we had heard was still in touch with relatives trapped inside, but as we ran across the street to their house a bullet landed less than a metre from our team.
It appeared we were being targeted.
Inside, one of the men told us they are being shot at every day, that they are getting no relief supplies and that their children were very nervous and traumatised.
We planned to stay in the building until the threat outside subsided, but then a fire started. It was unclear whether deliberately or not.
We had to get out, but the only way was back across the same street. We lined up to make the run, one at a time, into our vehicle, crouching low inside until we had reached relative safety.
From there we watched military reinforcements rolling in - a long convoy of more armoured personnel carriers and trucks full of soldiers heading into Marawi.
Most of the city's 250,000 inhabitants have fled, leaving their street stalls still set out with blackened bananas rotting where they hang.
We passed a dead dog, abandoned in the road, and black graffiti as a reminder of what they were running from.
"WELCOME ISIS!" one scrawled message read. Another had a picture of a skull and cross-bones beneath an ISIS slogan.
Checkpoints have been set up on every road into the city - searching vehicles for men and ammunition trying to get in, and any fighters trying to escape.
Photos of suspected militants are posted at every exit, and compared to drivers and passengers coming through.
Among them - the leaders of the Maute group - two brothers, Omar and Abdullah Maute.
The attack on Marawi was led by the brothers and Isnilon Hapilon, head of the Abu Sayyaf group and the declared IS "emir" for south east Asia.
Hapilon is on the FBI's list of most wanted terrorists - a $5m (£3.93m) reward has been offered for information leading to his capture.
A raid to capture Hapilon on 23 May triggered the current violence and may have thwarted a larger, planned assault on the city three days later. His fate and location remain unknown.
Poverty, lawlessness and the legacy of decades of conflict in this region have created fertile ground for new recruits.
We spoke to the uncle of a young man killed fighting for the Maute group, who told us there are many more like him.
"In my village, the number of recruited were 10. Actually there are lots of
them that have already been killed in the fighting in Marawi," the man said.
"There are a lot because Abdullah Maute targeted Cotabato City. He convinced a lot of teenagers..."
In June 2016, Islamic State called for those who cannot reach Syria to head for the Philippines instead.
It has a propaganda video which purportedly shows its militants in Marawi.
A number of foreign fighters have been found among the dead. The longer the conflict goes on, the greater the danger more will be attracted to the cause from across the region and beyond.
On Sunday, a temporary ceasefire was declared to mark the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, and allow what the military called a "humanitarian pause".
A delegation of religious leaders and volunteers, armed only with megaphones, headed out across the front line to try to negotiate the release of some of the trapped civilians.
But as we waited for news, a number of shots were fired into our street, forcing everyone to take cover behind parked cars.
Three hours later, the rescue teams re-emerged, bringing with them a 14-month old girl and her mother, father, grandfather, and aunt.
The family had hidden in their employer's basement for 33 days.
"There were bombs dropping near to us," grandfather Lando Albasete told us. "We dropped to the floor."
"My granddaughter was crying every time there was an explosion."
His daughter-in-law had given birth while they were trapped, but the baby did not survive.
The teams also brought out the body of a 72-year-old man, who had suffered a stroke, and died before he could be reached.
Even as the rescued family was being taken to hospital, the fighting in Marawi resumed.
The military insists the rebel leadership is "crumbling" and victory is "irreversible" but declined to say when it might come.
I'm wondering what would have to fall so that World noticed, would it be Davao? or it would have to be Manila ...real world:
Philippine envoys talk with Islamist militant leader during brief truce
Sun Jun 25, 2017 | 8:12am EDT
If the current conflict in the Philippines is any indication, Southeast Asia may be the next major battlefront for Islamic State-supporting jihadists, according to a story by .
Philippine soldiers have been fighting ISIS-aligned insurgents in Marawi City for the past month — and this is because more and more Islamic jihadists are traveling east, said Adm. Harry Harris, the commander of U.S. Pacific forces, on Wednesday in a speech to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute that was covered by The Wall Street Journal.
“Marawi is a wake-up call for every nation in the Indo-Asia Pacific,” Harris said. “These terrorists are using combat tactics that we’ve seen in the Middle East to kill in the city of Marawi, in Mindanao, the first time ISIS-inspired forces have banded together to fight on this kind of scale.”
As they lose ground at home, Middle Eastern militants have been fleeing ISIS strongholds in Syria and Iraq and heading to Southeast Asia, said Harris. Once there, the jihadists use their vast resources and extremist ideology to radicalize new, local members to their cause.
Harris proposed closer ties between the U.S., the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh and Australia to counter the growing Islamic threat, which Harris called a “nemesis to humanity” in his speech.