Solving Hong Kong problem, shut down its Universities permanently, hotbeds for radicalization
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manqiangrexue
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There was so many other aspects that I had addressed to why prestigious institutions should not be destroyed that you did not answer. This is only a small part and you are correct, many people will just do that. BUT it missed all the other points here:
"You're advocating destroying prestigious institutions that took decades to build and have a 1. vast amount of talent that is not guaranteed to go to China when they lose their jobs. 2. And it's not necessary to do so; Chinese agents can outplay CIA, especially with the rules and university in their favor. Make sure the presidents of these 8 universities are all pro-Beijing. What do Chinese agents have to fear from CIA in that situation?
The backlash will be enormous, throughout the world. You cannot destroy all the education in an area! It's seen as you going mad. 3.It's more desperate and crazy than Trump's blanket tariffs. The world will think China has gone back to the cultural revolution and people with talent will start fleeing."
These great talented universities in HK belong to China! It is destroying your own valuable assets to shut them down and it should be reserved as an absolute last option if nothing else works to preserve national security. I don't understand why you want to destroy universities when you don't have to. Just because it's easier?
Closing down a university for legitimate national security issues is neither a totalitarian act nor a human rights violation, ok? Way too liberal.
Hey, 1989 worked. People behaved well after 1989. I've already addressed the financial damage to Hong Kong but it will never become like Xinjiang or Xizang because those 2 are desert/mountain places that are far from everything and have no access to water. Hong Kong is a seaside trading port. It will redevelop just fine without Western trading hub status just like all of China's other prosperous cities by the ocean.
Because that's 28 years more of this traitorous garbage. And come 2047, the cultural difference is still going to be there; it's just a question of if you want to tackle it now or wait 3 decades. I don't like to procrastinate. I'm inclined to want to stop it now but I'm not a tactician on the level of anyone in ZhongNanHai so maybe they'll wait it. Who knows?
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Lol avoiding US tariffs from HK? Keep dreaming!!
Chinese manufacturers put on made in Vietnam label and they still can't get away.
I simply don't think HK universities talents are that special. Talents really commodity in the market.
China wants to develope Semiconductor field, so Chinese companies paid x3 to x4 times salaries to Taiwan or Korean engineers to come to China to help develop that area.
Or jet engine technology development , China go to Ukraine to recrew motor sich engineers to come China to work.
Huawei setup Semiconductor firm at UK to get talents there and invested in Russian hightech. It's president Ren glowed about eastern Europe talents.
So talents are like commodities from a global perspective and the fields China really want to develope I don't think HK universities really have it.
HK doesn't have the right talents. So I don't mind it's universities being gutted. They served as hotbeds for radical movement. The harm they bring is greater than the value they possessed.
US already painted China as such evil empire that needed to be destroyef so China gutting a fee universities won't make it any more worst. It's still an evil regime in US eyes.
Are you sure?
Besides foreign agents in HK, HK is the single greatest escape route of mainland money oversea. The greatest capital flight from mainland.
HK is a major major liability right now, much more than its value.
US is trying to ruin China through capital flight and HK is a bleeding hole
That's why this extradition law needed to capture those folks sunctioning money out of mainland.
Even is HK completely destroyed, China still stand. But China will fall one day if it's wealth being channeled out from mainland through HK
HK is a major liability greater than its value. I say gut it's universities to start.
Those money Chinese men in HK are using Universities as their tool to go against the central government.
HK is a major major liability right now, much more than its value.
US is trying to ruin China through capital flight and HK is a bleeding hole
That's why this extradition law needed to capture those folks sunctioning money out of mainland.
Even is HK completely destroyed, China still stand. But China will fall one day if it's wealth being channeled out from mainland through HK
HK is a major liability greater than its value. I say gut it's universities to start.
Those money Chinese men in HK are using Universities as their tool to go against the central government.
manqiangrexue
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University of HK has quite a high world rank, but even if they are all dispensable, the choice here is not to destroy them or leave them alone. They can reformed as I said; Chinese agents can counter CIA. Even if these institutions have a little use, which would be an understatement, it is much much better to preserve them than destroy then outright. You never want to reduce the amount of education your country can provide. The choices are as follows:
1. Leave them to be as they are.
2. Close them all down.
3. Insert Zhongnanhai agents to seek out and remove foreign agents, appoint pro-Beijing presidents to instill pro-Beijing policies, flood them with mainland admissions destroy and dilute anti-China culture and to implement them as a large net to further catch foreign agents.
The correct choice is clearly number 3, not number 2 simply because it's easy.
If you don't have anything to say, then don't say anything. This is a waste of everybody's time. And yes, I'm sure.
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Number 3 is hard due to opposition has deep grass root movement and have large number of followers throughout. Wanting to overturn their movement take too much... May not be possible.
They are like insects, you burn down their hive, not trying to invade and overtake their hive. You don't have the numbers like they do.
The members have visceral hatred for mainland. They are like cancer cells, not possible to control them. Need to purge them.
manqiangrexue
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OK well then at least you agree that that would be the ideal outcome to preserve the Universities. I wasn't sure if you thought this way or just wanted to see them all closed down as an act of vengeance.
I don't see that as impossible in any way; if there's anything that China has, it's numbers. CIA can't have more agents than ZhongNanHai can send. Students graduate in 4 years and you have new opportunity to send mainland students. Obviously, Beijing's agents will start from a low point and work upwards; if not, they wouldn't need to be there, but they deserve a chance. I'm not 100% sure it will work or how quickly it will work but I'm adamant that it's worth a try for a couple of years and if everything goes south, the university can just be closed. You just don't even think it's worth a try and want to go right to leaving all of Hong Kong without higher education, which I think sends out a very negative image on what Beijing is doing in Hong Kong, both to the world and to the Chinese people. We'll just have to disagree here.
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