Sino-Japanese military alliance

From a geopolitical terms, China and Japan can only be the old enemy. History is a mirror, just look at the history, we can know.
Only Japan and China economic cooperation, in addition, there is no other.
Japan in the second world war, suffered two of atomic bombs attacked from U.S, but it still became a military alliance with the United States, which proved that Japan's strategic intentions: the military suppression of China, a subsidiary of Japan's interests.
A person of Sino-Japanese military alliance, this is only wishful thinking.

I have to disagree with Maozedong, geopolitically or not,
alliance can never happen between 2 part that are more or less equal, unless they face a even bigger enemy, but alliance can easily happen between a more powerful part and a much less powerful one, security and cultural, economical bond dictate everything.

Japanese alliance with US today is based out of fear and WW2 defeat, first it's not by thier(japanese) choice(and I can hardly call that a alliance, more like occupation), then it's cause of threat from Soviet, and now cause Japanese fear China's rise.

ATM. however, since both japan and china are more or less equal to eachother in terms of national strength, a alliance is impossible, but china does have the potential to FAR surpass japan in terms of everything, so 40-50years from now, who knows.

yehe said:

I have to disagree with Maozedong, geopolitically or not,
alliance can never happen between 2 part that are more or less equal, unless they face a even bigger enemy, but alliance can easily happen between a more powerful part and a much less powerful one, security and cultural, economical bond dictate everything.

Japanese alliance with US today is based out of fear and WW2 defeat, first it's not by thier(japanese) choice(and I can hardly call that a alliance, more like occupation), then it's cause of threat from Soviet, and now cause Japanese fear China's rise.

ATM. however, since both japan and china are more or less equal to eachother in terms of national strength, a alliance is impossible, but china does have the potential to FAR surpass japan in terms of everything, so 40-50years from now, who knows.

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You are wrong, since the breakup of the Soviet Union, the US-Japan military alliance and not relax, but more closely, especially from the late 1990s, the military alliance on China's surrounded by more obvious, and the United States and Japan also signed a new military alliance treaty , The treaty clearly stated defense of the Taiwan Strait.
That is, from then, relations between China and Japan - in a straight unfriendly circumstances, the two countries dispute very often,the peoples of the two countries have mutual hostility, although this year, relations between the two countries had improved, but the two sides have been unable to resolve the conflict of interest .
Japan is a lack of resources of the island, from the time of China's Ming dynasty, Japan began an attempt to invade Korea and China, and finally in the time of late Qing Dynasty, Japan defeated China, occupied by Korea, Taiwan and the Ryukyu Islands, China's Lushun, and forced the Qing government to the military compensation Japan's 200 million taels of silver, Japan with the money to develop education, training personnel, Since then, Japan has become powerful.
Now, people can see that the U.S. support, Japan is the revival of militarism, Japan's navy, but also powerful than China, East China Sea between China and Japan to the interests of differences, which has the sea on a military surveillance,although the two sides No formal military conflict, but the two sides of the hostility is evident.
That is China and Japan's geo-political rule.
China and Japan how to become a military alliance ?This idea is very ridiculous.

If you read my post carefully you should notice that I am not wrong, I have clearly stated in that post the REASON and the background of US-Jap alliance after Soviet collapse. And the state of current alliance between US and Japan is not something I was arguring about, we are talking about the possibility of a alliance between china and japan, you obviously didn't even understood the question nor my answer.

Read my post again pls.

yehe said:

If you read my post carefully you should notice that I am not wrong, I have clearly stated in that post the REASON and the background of US-Jap alliance after Soviet collapse. And the state of current alliance between US and Japan is not something I was arguring about, we are talking about the possibility of a alliance between china and japan, you obviously didn't even understood the question nor my answer.

Read my post again pls.

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yes,I understand what you say, please read my post ,and find the difference point between you and me.

My point is, if 2 part are more or less equal in strength to eachother, they tend to compete and trying to challenge eachother, but if you one day become 5-10x more powerful than the other part, and china certainly do have that potential compared to Japan, the other part tend to not challenge you anymore. By then and by then only, a alliance becomes possible, and it is possible.

Anyway, I think alliances are outdated in todays world.

yehe said:

My point is, if 2 part are more or less equal in strength to eachother, they tend to compete and trying to challenge eachother, but if you one day become 5-10x more powerful than the other part, and china certainly do have that potential compared to Japan, the other part tend to not challenge you anymore. By then and by then only, a alliance becomes possible, and it is possible.

Anyway, I think alliances are outdated in todays world.

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You still do not understand what is the geo-political rule,
The U.S is how powerful, why Japan is not afraid of ?because the U.S far away from Japan, China, Korea, Russia are beside of Japan, that may cause region conflict, I have talked about history , on the history of Japanese aggression against neighboring countries rely on, As a power, stressing that the geo-political.
Today, Japan still ambitious, it has never been for the past crimes of aggression and apologize to China, and to use the US-Japan military alliance, strengthening arms.
But you do not see that today, you could not see what Japan do today, you just think that Japan is afraid of China, this is your wrong.

I fully understand the Geopolicital structure, however, I dissagree with you opinion that Japan-US alliance is based on far geographic distance to eachother, geopolitic plays a role only if you have 2 completely different culture or ethnicity, a good example is the US-Canadian relationship, Russia-Belarus, and even Germany-France.
Geopolitical competition can be overcome.

yehe said:

I fully understand the Geopolicital structure, however, I dissagree with you opinion that Japan-US alliance is based on far geographic distance to eachother, geopolitic plays a role only if you have 2 completely different culture or ethnicity, a good example is the US-Canadian relationship, Russia-Belarus, and even Germany-France.
Geopolitical competition can be overcome.

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good point, This is what I spend a lot of words to talk about these issues, including the history and now, the conclusion is - China, Russia, Japan and Korea exactly is this geo-political structure.
The world there are many similar such geo-political rule of the region, we can clearly see, some we can not see, because not exposure yet, or because there are common interests and the time being does not exist.
The world there is no absolute thing, from the beginning to now,I talked about the issue of China and Japan,but the crux of the problem is that geo-political rule.