Similarities between China and Taiwan

The_Zergling

The_Zergling

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The site's in Simplified Chinese, but I'd say the pictures speak for themselves. It's pretty funny, or ironic, depending on where you stand.

From what I can tell, it's a satire site, and it opens up like this :


There is only One China in the world, the People Republic of China, and Taiwan is part of that.

Ol' Chiang (Yeah, I didn't make this up) had control of Taiwan for 30 years, and continually brainwashed Taiwan's schoolchildren with "Party Education" and "National Spirit" education.

The current batch of Taiwanese youngsters haven't heard of "The Chinese syllogism", and likewise the adults have forgotten too.

But this "Silly Melon" (Apparently that's what the author calls himself/herself) is here to spread the word to both Chinese and Taiwanese people that ol' Chiang took pains to spread the truth.

"Taiwan is part of China." Everything that happens in China must also happen in Taiwan. In the next 20 sections the Silly Melon will show 20 batches of photos as proof.
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*Quoted for clarity. It's kind of a quote, as I translated it (badly) myself.
 
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KYli

Brigadier
The writer of this article is Taiwanese. He is quick popular in Some Mainland China Extreme Lestists websites. He is very anti-KMT. I don't want to say too much, but there are many chinese forum which are anti-CCP, anti-KMT, anti-chinese culture&history or you could say they are anti-chinse. But may I ask what is your objective, I am kind of of confuse:confused: .
 
The_Zergling

The_Zergling

Junior Member
Well, if you clicked on the link I provided (Which was the main point of the post) it has photos of China and Taiwan, depicting some amusing (in my opinion) similarities, such as the 'Mao Cult', and the over the top depictions of Mao and Chiang, and all that.

Didn't really have any objective. Just thought it was pretty amusing.

Maybe I'm just alone in thinking the over the top dramatization of both country's prior leaders was funny.
 
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KYli

Brigadier
The_Zergling said:
Well, if you clicked on the link I provided (Which was the main point of the post) it has photos of China and Taiwan, depicting some amusing (in my opinion) similarities, such as the 'Mao Cult', and the over the top depictions of Mao and Chiang, and all that.

Didn't really have any objective. Just thought it was pretty amusing.

Maybe I'm just alone in thinking the over the top dramatization of both country's prior leaders was funny.
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Don't get me wrong, I just want to know your objective. So I would have a proper respond:) . Since it is for amusing, we just need to have a good laugh:D .

Actually all leaderships from the world have many similarity, so it is not that difficult for people to make this kind of comparison. For Mao or Chiang, they both has help China to pull out of great difficult situation, but they both has failed to make China better.
 
The_Zergling

The_Zergling

Junior Member
Okay. Intentions stated clearly, all is clear.

I was mostly focusing on the superficial stuff like how similiar the statues look, stuff like that. It's true that you can compare the 'Mao cult' to a 'Stalin cult' but the similarities in expressive (artistic) style aren't as glaringly similiar as Mao vs Chiang.

On a side note, I'd arguably say that Mao made China better... somewhat. Chiang on the other hand... made Taiwan better by stealing a whole shitload of Chinese artifacts while he was running. His only redeeming point is that he managed to preserve some nice parts of Chinese culture, especially the Traditional Chinese writing. (At least in my opinion. But hey, I learned it as opposed to Simplified. Of course I'm biased. But seriously, who here thinks Traditional is uglier than Simplified?)
 
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darth sidious

Banned Idiot
The_Zergling said:
Okay. Intentions stated clearly, all is clear.

I was mostly focusing on the superficial stuff like how similiar the statues look, stuff like that. It's true that you can compare the 'Mao cult' to a 'Stalin cult' but the similarities in expressive (artistic) style aren't as glaringly similiar as Mao vs Chiang.

On a side note, I'd arguably say that Mao made China better... somewhat. Chiang on the other hand... made Taiwan better by stealing a whole shitload of Chinese artifacts while he was running. His only redeeming point is that he managed to preserve some nice parts of Chinese culture, especially the Traditional Chinese writing. (At least in my opinion. But hey, I learned it as opposed to Simplified. Of course I'm biased. But seriously, who here thinks Traditional is uglier than Simplified?)
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yes traditional writing look better but then its harder to learn, simpilfyed was introduced in the late 50s to improve education
 
The_Zergling

The_Zergling

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Hmm. That's an arguable point that I've heard a lot, but I say it's hard to learn a second (or third) language regardless of what writing it uses.

I'll concede that pinyin makes learning Chinese a lot easier for non-native speakers at first (as long as they learn how to pronounce the characters properly as opposed to pronouncing the words as they are spelled out in pinyin) because pinyin's in "english" which makes it easier to get used to as opposed to... how the hell do you call the spelling used in Taiwan? Juyin?

Of course I've can't really contest whether or not Simplified makes learning Chinese harder for a native speaker. If anything, it frustrates me because if Taiwan and China unify I have the sinking feeling that we'd be forced to switch to Pinyin and Simplified, something that duly pisses me off. It's one of my pet peeves.

On a side note I first started learning Simplified because I wanted to read some manga online. It was easy for me because I already knew Traditional, but I don't know if it would be easy for a 'foreigner'.
 
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darth sidious

Banned Idiot
The_Zergling said:
Hmm. That's an arguable point that I've heard a lot, but I say it's hard to learn a second (or third) language regardless of what writing it uses.

I'll concede that pinyin makes learning Chinese a lot easier for non-native speakers at first (as long as they learn how to pronounce the characters properly as opposed to pronouncing the words as they are spelled out in pinyin) because pinyin's in "english" which makes it easier to get used to as opposed to... how the hell do you call the spelling used in Taiwan? Juyin?

Of course I've can't really contest whether or not Simplified makes learning Chinese harder for a native speaker. If anything, it frustrates me because if Taiwan and China unify I have the sinking feeling that we'd be forced to switch to Pinyin and Simplified, something that duly pisses me off. It's one of my pet peeves.

On a side note I first started learning Simplified because I wanted to read some manga online. It was easy for me because I already knew Traditional, but I don't know if it would be easy for a 'foreigner'.
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its dosent make a difference if you know one you can learn the other easily
I taught myself how to read and write traditional when I was like 9? so its not that hard.

many book are published in traditional in mainland china

but pinyin is much easier to learn then the taiwanese spelling especialy for foreginers
 
PiSigma

PiSigma

"the engineer"
lol.. this site is awesome. dictators don't change.

traditional characters looks better hands down. but there are too many strokes to learn. but on the plus side, if you ever studies caligraphy, you can see where each stroke comes from through the evolution of the character, but with simplified you can't.
 
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