Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread

[Nx4eu]

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Don't forget the DSI bump

 

[enroger]

I just wanted to fix some past mistakes in my observations with the clearer photo. Red is the groove, yellow is what is clearly visible outlines, and on the weapons bay the yellow also is where there is a visible black seal like material similar to the the edges of the control surfaces, which points to a general weapons bay length. The orange bits are what I just made up to complete the yellow lines to form a better visual representation.
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I'm not convinced the small bulge near the inlet is on side weapon door, it serves no purpose if it is the case. I'm guessing some sort of sensor

 

[Nx4eu]

I just wanted to fix some past mistakes in my observations with the clearer photo. Red is the groove, yellow is what is clearly visible outlines, and on the weapons bay the yellow also is where there is a visible black seal like material similar to the the edges of the control surfaces, which points to a general weapons bay length. The orange bits are what I just made up to complete the yellow lines to form a better visual representation.
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Also based on some more crude measurements my previous bay size estimates seem to be close. The main bay seems to be roughly 4.90m long and 1.45m wide. While the side bays seem to be ~4m long. This is if the aircraft is indeed 22m long. Any groove bay still can't be confirmed but with what we've seen so far, I'm still a firm believer the PL-17 isn't for this aircraft.

 

[no_name]

I think 2 pilots arrangement might actually be a hard requirement for all 6th gen fighters as it will be truly designed with coordinating loyal wingmen in mind from scratch.

So both J-36 and J-50 will be twin seaters.
And if Boeing is smart they would make theirs the same.

 

[Nx4eu]

Also based on some more crude measurements my previous bay size estimates seem to be close. The main bay seems to be roughly 4.90m long and 1.45m wide. While the side bays seem to be ~4m long. This is if the aircraft is indeed 22m long. Any groove bay still can't be confirmed but with what we've seen so far, I'm still a firm believer the PL-17 isn't for this aircraft.

Just a simple visualization. These are not small weapons bays by any means, it's just smaller than the J-36.
(The areas are squished together i.e the J-XD bays are not a large singular section but split by a groove)
(Large portion of the J-20 bay is unusable which is what the blue block is)
I believe a new slightly larger than PL-15 missile could be in development for the J-XDS main bay

 

[Nevermore]

Chinese community netizens speculate that the side is occupied by the landing gear storage compartment.

 

[Nx4eu]

Chinese community netizens speculate that the side is occupied by the landing gear storage compartment.View attachment 150211

I believe that could also be a possibility, except that is far too small for a PL-10 bay, so there could just not be a side bay which is a possibility I believe. Unless they shrink the PL-10 to 2m. This also connects some dots with whatever that thing is on the supposed door.

 

[Schwerter_]

Chinese community netizens speculate that the side is occupied by the landing gear storage compartment.View attachment 150211

Makes sense tbh, the J35 has similar MLG design and a service hatch in the same place as the red-marked region in this pic (incidentally the red region in the J-XDS picture is way too small as shown for it to be a side weapons bay). Since this J-XDS picture is also touched up by algorithm I wouldn’t be surprised if the “side weapons bay” is created by the algorithm by building on a hatch or the bulge or some blurry detail that’s on the side of the intake.

 

[Nx4eu]

Makes sense tbh, the J35 has similar MLG design and a service hatch in the same place as the red-marked region in this pic (incidentally the red region in the J-XDS picture is way too small as shown for it to be a side weapons bay). Since this J-XDS picture is also touched up by algorithm I wouldn’t be surprised if the “side weapons bay” is created by the algorithm by building on a hatch or the bulge or some blurry detail that’s on the side of the intake.

That's what I was thinking as well haha. Shenyang shenanigans again. (Shenyang Lead designer showing off his not so accurate model of his own aircraft).

 

[Deino]

I just wanted to fix some past mistakes in my observations with the clearer photo. Red is the groove, yellow is what is clearly visible outlines, and on the weapons bay the yellow also is where there is a visible black seal like material similar to the the edges of the control surfaces, which points to a general weapons bay length. The orange bits are what I just made up to complete the yellow lines to form a better visual representation.
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Maybe this helps a bit ... via foolsball/X: