Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread

[Ringsword]

Wondering how that would impact self sense of motion and space, may be wierd for the brain?

What if pilot sits in usual position but the glass part of the cockpit...is very small or doesnt exist? Would really reduce the RCS further. Meanwhile, cameras, sensors, screens, helmets can provide the necessary simulation and info.

Basically...no canopy, better stealth, less drag.

We could call it Cope Canopy..Copeanopy, for all the seething and tears it can potentially generate on social media vs the legacy transparent canopies.

IIRC,the F22 Raptor has gold tint canopy to absorb/deflect/attenuate certain radar frequencies as the pilot himself and his equipment(sitting rather high up) could be a large source of radar reflection and J50/J36 being a 2 decades more advanced -the designers realized this fact and have simply buried the cockpit lower within the stealth body itself thus shielding the pilot/gear from EM exposure and I don't believe he's lying down flat but at the optimum seating angle-ala Martin-Baker aircraft seats-the pilot does have some skylight ,just so that he doesn't get disoriented but he's obviously surrounded by electronic screens.Please correct me if I'm wrong-just an observation.

 

[enroger]

Is it possible the pilot is in a prone position? Technically speaking you can resist G forces better.

Why though, even with a extremely recessed cockpit there is still enough space for normal position, especially with the front gear out of the way

 

[taxiya]

Why people are entertaining the idea that the fuselage is so flattend or the cockpit is recessed that the pilot is in a laying or prone position?

The fuselage is simply much wider than comparable fighter in operation, so propotionally it is flatter, but not shallower in absolut term. The cockpit is not visible from a lower angle because it is blocked by the wider fuslage.

The answer is much simpler than people would think.

 

[Racek49]

Why though, even with a extremely recessed cockpit there is still enough space for normal position, especially with the front gear out of the way

Try lying on your stomach for 6 to 8 hours and not falling asleep. Besides, you can't perform many of the activities you need during the flight, and I can't imagine changing the cockpit design with a practically immobile pilot. The Germans and then the Russians tried this during the war, but for short flights. It didn't work.

 

[latenlazy]

Try lying on your stomach for 6 to 8 hours and not falling asleep. Besides, you can't perform many of the activities you need during the flight, and I can't imagine changing the cockpit design with a practically immobile pilot. The Germans and then the Russians tried this during the war, but for short flights. It didn't work.

Not that I’m sold on a recessed cockpit but no one is flying a fighter plane in a combat operation for 6-8 hours lol.

 

[by78]

An extremely butchered image of J-XD-S.
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The guy who took this killed it before leaking it. Blast him.

Are we sure this isn't CGI? I've seen another non-color-inverted version of this, and it looks exactly like a CGI image.

 

[e46m3]

It's CGI, here is the Artist and he has more renderings on a carrier too.

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[Mearex]

Here, the real deal. Still low quality though.
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most likely flat nozzles, but I still need a good view from below to confirm theres no IWB groove

 

[Mearex]

Wouldn't be surprised if it turned out like this.

An almost flat-lying pilot (back at least at 45 degrees angle and the lower legs at horizontal level) with AR/VR goggles to view the outside world through 4k (or higher res) cameras should be achievable by now.

like raiden's plane in metal gear rising lmao

 

[Deino]

It's CGI, here is the Artist and he has more renderings on a carrier too.

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The point is, the clearer ones are clearly CGs, but I‘m not sure if the recently posted image is a CG or - that’s how I understand it - if he re-does the few known true Images with his CGs to show them in the same position?