Shenyang FC-31 / J-31 Fighter Demonstrator

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Deino

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Yeppp ... but to find some minor flaws, which is more than usual and to tell it a failure is something different even more since he does not conclude that from any facts other than the missing constant new images, which can be explained much more simple than by a technical fault. ... at least IMO !

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vesicles

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Well Deino, she is a clean sheet design, I would be very surprized if they didn't find something bony on the first flight, its not unusual to have to go back to the drawing board. Now I like the J-31, in fact it is my favorite new airplane, and nobody will be more dissapointed than I if this bird doesn't go forward, so there will inevitably be issues. I like this chick because she is modeled on the same planform as the F-22, mid wing delta, twin engine, twin rudders.

So Hardware is likely right just by playing the odds, if we started to list the F-35s "issues", the J-31 has the potential to be a very fine airplane, and I believe Shenyang is up to the task, you have to remember there was a LOT more developement work completed when the J-20 took her first flight, so patience all. A new airplane is a lot more involved than cut and paste, it all has to work together, for example the F-35 has an issue with buffeting as the AoA is increased as well as tran-sonic rolloff or loss of directional control,,,,,, but they did fly her well past her design max AoA of 50 degrees AoA to 73 degress AoA, so even with concerns you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, and as long as the funding is there the J-31 is likely to make a very fine Naval Aircraft. Brat

I think what Deino is upset about is the statement itself, not the possibility that J-31 may potentially be back to the drawing board. All the statement was saying was that it might be back to the drawing board because we haven't seen it for a while. We need solid physical evidence to make such speculation.
 

hardware

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F-35 at USAF suggestion also redesign her inter weapon bay,and some intenal r structure to reduce her weight.
J-31 for SAC is unlike legacy F-8 -3 ,is complete revolutionary and technological leap over previous design.surely some problem encounter during first first maiden flight.
 

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F-35 at USAF suggestion also redesign her inter weapon bay,and some intenal r structure to reduce her weight.
J-31 for SAC is unlike legacy F-8 -3 ,is complete revolutionary and technological leap over previous design.surely some problem encounter during first first maiden flight.

Do you know what was inside the wrapping?
 

Deino

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So was that gif image of the landing gear going up a manipulation? I would really like see a pic without the landing gear.

Why .. guys again, You are funny !

YES, we simply have not as many images as from the J-20; that's a simple FACT !

But why on earth does some here conclude that:

1. SAC again is too stupid to develop and test an aircraft properly
2. the J-31 need to go back to the drawing board due to design failures (again point 1)
3. this gif is fakes/psed/manipulated ???
...

Aren't there much more possibilities which would explain the lack of images ??

That does not mean that there might indeed some things that need to be corrected, but we simply can not conclude this from the lack of images.

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hardware

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Why .. guys again, You are funny !

YES, we simply have not as many images as from the J-20; that's a simple FACT !

But why on earth does some here conclude that:

1. SAC again is too stupid to develop and test an aircraft properly
2. the J-31 need to go back to the drawing board due to design failures (again point 1)
3. this gif is fakes/psed/manipulated ???
...

Aren't there much more possibilities which would explain the lack of images ??

That does not mean that there might indeed some things that need to be corrected, but we simply can not conclude this from the lack of images.

Deino

deino,evrything about J-31 right now is just speculation/every one has right to express his opinion on J-31.unless there is official explanation from SAC.everything just wild guess.
 

Deino

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deino,evrything about J-31 right now is just speculation/every one has right to express his opinion on J-31.unless there is official explanation from SAC.everything just wild guess.

Agreed, but as such anyone could also express his/her opinion that CHina already operates a secret station on the moon but we simply have so far no info on that or that all these recent models are "only" test beds and demonstrators since China want'sa to fool trhe world by giving the impression that it finally has succeeded in several fields of aerodynamics.

I only beg You - and that's at least IMO one reason for the quality in this forum - to stick to the facts, to argue with facts and not only to speculate due to the lack of facts ... otherwise this forum will soon go wild !

Therefore: Just give us a reason, why You think so ...

Deino
 

AssassinsMace

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Why .. guys again, You are funny !

YES, we simply have not as many images as from the J-20; that's a simple FACT !

But why on earth does some here conclude that:

1. SAC again is too stupid to develop and test an aircraft properly
2. the J-31 need to go back to the drawing board due to design failures (again point 1)
3. this gif is fakes/psed/manipulated ???
...

Aren't there much more possibilities which would explain the lack of images ??

That does not mean that there might indeed some things that need to be corrected, but we simply can not conclude this from the lack of images.

Deino

I'm not sure what you're talking about because I never said or suggested anything to that regard. I just wished for an image that had landing gears up.
 
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