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Self Propelled Gun/Rocket Launcher
- Thread starter FORBIN
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yea that was my questions as well. judging by the accuracy it must be a krasnopol type round. makes the most sense that the drone was illuminating target.Is the shell being guided by the drone, or is the drone simply acting as a spotter? I know the title says "Drone guided artillery" but that may be a literal translation of the Chinese caption, rather than a true meaning.
They are probably already using robot dogs to guide artillery round.
At its simplest even without a laser designator an infiltration unit can simply send its own coordinate and direct artillery onto itself.
Knocked out units with cameras battery and transmitter still functioning? Can still direct fire.
At its simplest even without a laser designator an infiltration unit can simply send its own coordinate and direct artillery onto itself.
Knocked out units with cameras battery and transmitter still functioning? Can still direct fire.
This is certainly a very generous estimation of the capabilities of robot dogs. Some might even call it naive.They are probably already using robot dogs to guide artillery round.
At its simplest even without a laser designator a infiltration unit can simply send its own coordinate and direct artillery onto itself.
Knocked out units with cameras battery and transmitter still functioning? Can still direct fire.
Why use a land-bound dog when flight-capable drones do the same thing?
Why have army when you have air force?This is certainly a very generous estimation of the capabilities of robot dogs. Some might even call it naive.
Why use a land-bound dog when flight-capable drones do the same thing?
This is a deliberately misleading false analogy. The air-force can perform tasks that the army cannot: such as removing enemy air combatants, and then projecting control of airspace well beyond the capabilities of land-based SAM systems.Why have army when you have air force?
On the other hand, you are suggesting using a robot dog for nothing but a homing target for artillery rounds. This is a couple things: (a) a waste of a robot dog, by calling artillery strikes on its own position and therefore destroying it (b) completely doable using a more maneuverable drone and (c) greatly overestimating the capabilities of a robot dog to operate either autonomously or under manual guidance at a long distance.
Why have a robot dog traverse the 30-40 km between artillery and its target just to be blown up on arrival, when a drone can fly the distance in a tenth of the time, a tenth of the cost, and at ten times the reliability?
It can call strikes on its own positions if situation requires it to, I did not say it has to, why could it not also have a laser designator.This is a deliberately misleading false analogy. The air-force can perform tasks that the army cannot: such as removing enemy air combatants, and then projecting control of airspace well beyond the capabilities of land-based SAM systems.
On the other hand, you are suggesting using a robot dog for nothing but a homing target for artillery rounds. This is a couple things: (a) a waste of a robot dog, by calling artillery strikes on its own position and therefore destroying it (b) completely doable using a more maneuverable drone and (c) greatly overestimating the capabilities of a robot dog to operate either autonomously or under manual guidance at a long distance.
Why have a robot dog traverse the 30-40 km between artillery and its target just to be blown up on arrival, when a drone can fly the distance in a tenth of the time, a tenth of the cost, and at ten times the reliability?
If it is rendered immobile but not completely destroyed, and it sees a target of opportunity near by, why can it not sacrifice itself?
Can drone hold a position with more staying power than ground assets? Can it enter buildings to search? Does artillery support have to be heavy pieces or can it can also be mortars?
Robot dogs are like infantryman. It carries a gun, but shooting is not all that it does. Why do we still have people doing recon missions? Wouldn't a robot dog be more useful in dense jungles than a drone?
I would ask you to consider which is better: laser designator from above the target, or on the ground. The ground may and will have all sorts of obstructions guaranteed to be in the way, preventing the laser from illuminating anywhere near the target. On the other hand, a laser from the air may not always be able to illuminate the target itself, but it will be able to illuminate the structure atop the target, allowing artillery shells to still strike the target effectively.It can call strikes on its own positions if situation requires it to, I did not say it has to, why could it not also have a laser designator.
If it is rendered immobile but not completely destroyed, and it sees a target of opportunity near by, why can it not sacrifice itself?
Can drone hold a position with more staying power than ground assets? Can it enter buildings to search? Does artillery support have to be heavy pieces or can it can also be mortars?
Robot dogs are like infantryman. It carries a gun, but shooting is not all that it does. Why do we still have people doing recon missions? Wouldn't a robot dog be more useful in dense jungles than a drone?
Don't kid yourself regarding the abilities of robot dogs to effectively hold a position against an enemy attack. Or the ability of a robot dog to effectively search a building. As far as wartime use goes, a drone may in fact be better: we have seen that the PLA trains with AR-goggles and drones, and I know for a fact that such drones can navigate through broken windows and the complex internal structure of buildings effectively.
A robot dog may be about as useless as a drone in the dense jungle. You might never have been into the dense jungle, but there's never the nice path in movies where everything else is super-dense foliage. Everything is just super-dense foliage. A pain enough for humans to walk through, even worse for robot dogs.
In any case, we've seen in the pictures posted that the PLA is using an airborne drone, either to spot or illuminate targets. It is a bit pointless to suggest robot dogs as an alternative for this purpose when the limitations of robot dogs are so clear.
Trying to walk a robot dog across 5km of rough terrain to illuminate a target or just flying a drone across the same distance. Which seems easier? Or faster? A person would be faster than the robot dog and also have more "time on station" as well. There are applications for robot dogs in CQB or whatever but even the best robot dogs these days have battery life measured in hours, are slow, and are really heavy compared to basically any quadcopter.A dog will likely have greater payload for a given expense and likely more time on station too in a recce situation. There are trade-offs for both, it ultimately depends on the requirements.