SD Forum suggestions and questions

[SteelBird]

May I contribute my 2 cents in this forum; since we fail to keep a discussion civil, keep it closed. For those who want to argue, please go somewhere else. Period!

 

[plawolf]

May I contribute my 2 cents in this forum; since we fail to keep a discussion civil, keep it closed. For those who want to argue, please go somewhere else. Period!

Problem with that is that the usual suspects who don’t like the way discussions are going on threads now just deliberately provoke flame storms to shut the whole threads down. These people are not interested in anyone else’s opinion, and only post here to try and spread their own ideology. When that fails, and/or facts turn against them, they nuke the thread and move onto the next one. That is how SDF will die if we don’t stop them.

 

[SteelBird]

Problem with that is that the usual suspects who don’t like the way discussions are going on threads now just deliberately provoke flame storms to shut the whole threads down. These people are not interested in anyone else’s opinion, and only post here to try and spread their own ideology. When that fails, and/or facts turn against them, they nuke the thread and move onto the next one. That is how SDF will die if we don’t stop them.

Then use the weapon we have in hands, warning, periodic ban and finally permanent ban if they do it again and again. Everyone has a job and is busy with our own life. We aren't here to explain to them what and what. The rules are there. Just use it! it reminds me a phrase from my Western teacher years ago "Baby Boom".

 

[Hadoren]

I mostly lurk, but I think that the COVID-19 thread is extremely important and necessary. This is the biggest event in a generation. It should be open.

I've been reading through the thread. I haven't seen anything that to me seems extremely controversial.

 

[Gatekeeper]

I have been here from the beginning when there is only discussion board not forum. In the early days, there are more attempts to warn and ban members. It is only after the fact that moderators couldn't handle the endless flame wars that they decided to lock threads up and banned members. More recent years, locking threads have become more common tactics. Understandably, they preferred locking threads because of resource consideration.




When we are involved in military discussion, you are not even here yet. Many of us have discussed so much about Chinese military that there isn't much to contribute anymore. Chinese military forum and China Defense Forum used to have many military experts that debate about Chinese military and development and war scenarios and hardware comparison. Most topics have been covered many times already. When SDF came along, it focused more on hardware and technical specifications. After some flame wars, SDF banned military comparisons discussion, india and Pakistan discussions, and then military scenarios discussions etc. For most observers and amateurs, there are not much to contribute after SDF banned many types of discussions.

As for why SDF allowed some political discussions, it isn't my concern. I just felt it is irritated that moderators can't take the heat by locking threads without much leeway.

A classic case of needing to evolve or die. And we have eolved in the past, and we should continue doing so. In my teaching of marketing to my students, we are taught that every products got a life cycle!

 

[Gatekeeper]

You should have clarified you were making a sarcastic racist remark as part of this forums social experiment, It appears to be ok as long as you toned down your racist remark despite forum rules stating otherwise.

Absolutely, unfortunately communication is using all senses, and because we can't see your emotion, we would not've know it is not meant to be taking seriously.

 

[Gatekeeper]

My point is SDF used to attract younger demographic. That is not the case anymore. If they are willing to allow some exceptions, then they should give more leeway.

There are plenty of friction with or without political discussions. More moderation or less moderation is a choice not a must. Furthermore, there is no rules that said we need to like each other. We just need to be civilized.




You often don't comply with the rules and moderators didn't ban you for that. They give you leeway. How hard is that for you to understand? If moderators enforced the rules strictly, then most of us should be banned.

In addition, coronavirus discussion isn't even a political topic. It has evolved over time and become somewhat political. The discussion of coronavirus was not a problem when the focus is on China and when people were criticized China and Chinese government. It has become a problem because the focus is not on China anymore but on other countries.

Again another spot-on post!

 

[Air Force Brat]

Then use the weapon we have in hands, warning, periodic ban and finally permanent ban if they do it again and again. Everyone has a job and is busy with our own life. We aren't here to explain to them what and what. The rules are there. Just use it! it reminds me a phrase from my Western teacher years ago "Baby Boom".

Good Morning Gentlemen: Steelbird's excellent post will outline our re-opening of the corona virus thread, Deino has issued some very specific guidelines for re-opening this thread, and Steels excellent post is the headliner:

From Deino!

#1. All members refrain from including political bias

#2. If there is a post someone rates as politically insulting, provocative or offensive, please report urgently, so that we moderators can decide... the moderators will decide quickly and decisively!

#3. If one of us rates a post politically insulting, provocative or offensive? this should result in an immediate temporary ban without any further warning or discussion....

#4. in addition, any bullying or thuggish behavior will result in an immediate permanent ban, this is directed at those of you who already have multiple warnings and vacations....

Do NOT respond to this moderation: this is your warning Gentlemen, any dis-respectful behavior aimed at any member or moderator will send you on vacation.....

 

[Gatekeeper]

I mostly lurk, but I think that the COVID-19 thread is extremely important and necessary. This is the biggest event in a generation. It should be open.

I've been reading through the thread. I haven't seen anything that to me seems extremely controversial.

Exactly, there were one or two got out of hands, but was quickly back on track. I Didn't see any heated stuff, maybe it just me!

 

[Air Force Brat]

Not sure the same rules applied to South China Sea thread. There were pages and pages of non-stop political warfare by rule-abiding people.

They do indeed, and thanks for the heads up, I can assure you that many of those posts are indeed in violation of SDF rules, the ones that do indeed violate the rules are NOT POSTED by rule abiding members...