Looks very chinook-ish for some reason to me.
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Looks very chinook-ish for some reason to me.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Would kinda be fitting as Boeing is the lead on this and makes the Chinook.
I think it's the nose and fact it has two rotors.
Though I think the AVX FVL had more of a Chinook resemblance.
I think it's the nose and fact it has two rotors.
Though I think the AVX FVL had more of a Chinook resemblance.
The AVX definitely did. The Defiant surprised me that it has that...'look.' Not sure why, but it does.
I wonder if you could do two sets of two rotors to do a super chinnie.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
That I think would be over complicated. Besides it's already a very impressive machine with the tandom system.
Thus far there have been concepts for the next step of Chinook
One concept is to add a extra blade per rotor and replacement engines
Another adds wings with externally mounted auxiliary propulsion ducts rotors.
Either way plans are not to replace it until 2060. Because of its size and mission role any replacement at that point would probably be some kind of large tiltrotor
Thus far there have been concepts for the next step of Chinook
One concept is to add a extra blade per rotor and replacement engines
Another adds wings with externally mounted auxiliary propulsion ducts rotors.
Either way plans are not to replace it until 2060. Because of its size and mission role any replacement at that point would probably be some kind of large tiltrotor
Jura The idiot
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I'm gonna put my money on the Defiant, that rigid contra rotating rotor brings a lot of added speed and maneuverability, Bell's going to have their work cut out for them to match it in the low speed regime, like the my continuing motorcycle analogy, fighter aircraft analogy, its all about "mass centralization" with the Defiant you have a very stable center of lift at the center of gravity, rather than two centers of lift, far outboard of the center of gravity!happened to notice (unable to comment) this graphics now:
Mark my word Gentlemen, "MASS CENTRALIZATION", center of lift and center of gravity overlapping, rather than "centers of lift far outboard" of the center of gravity, not saying it won't work, it does, but its a much more complex system, MUCH MORE!
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Defiant will have a lot of catching up to do. Valor has been flying for a year now and it's almost at full cruise speed.
Defiant is slower in progress and speed.
Both offer a lot though and the makers are pulling out all the stops to match each other in offerings.
Bell has been pitching naval configurations. Boeing is starting to to but also showed CGI of an Attack chopper version. Bell countered with a Stealth.
Defiant is slower in progress and speed.
Both offer a lot though and the makers are pulling out all the stops to match each other in offerings.
Bell has been pitching naval configurations. Boeing is starting to to but also showed CGI of an Attack chopper version. Bell countered with a Stealth.
No doubt it does, but their maturity will at some point converge here in the next two years as Bell is pushing more conventional technology with their contra rotating, central mast rotors, while Boeing is working hard to allow their tilt rotor more "blade flapping" in order to get the maneuverability they will need to compete with Defiant.
So the tilt rotor will have a hard time matching the maneuverability of the Defiant, and Defiant may never be quite as fast as the tilt rotor.
and that's the primary reason the Army hasn't been onboard with the Air Force and Marines with Osprey, it just won't do, some of the things they need it to do??
The primary reason the army didn't get onboard with the Osprey is the cost. The thing was really expensive at a time when Army aviation was pinched so much they decided against new designations for the Apache to save money: The Model D had multiple sub-versions that ought to have been the E already. When you are that tight with money, there was no way they could afford the Osprey.
I'm placing my chits on the Valor for the Blackhawk replacement and the Defiant or raider for the Kiowa replacement. The former needs speed and range, especially in the Pacific. The latter needs the maneuverability.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Little confused there brat