Russian SU27 crashes in Lithuania

Vytautas

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the difference between our state is that we finns have learned to live peacfully
We have tried this 50 years ago and we learned that this is the best way to lure russian troops to our doorstep.Also things werent always like this.Stuff like this only started since putin began his second term.I dont know what hit him,but his foreign minister started some sort of anti-baltic-american campaign.This happened directly after Mrs.Rice during her visit called Belarus a dictatorship.Things went totally bad when our president decided to support the orange revolution in Ukraine and that wasnt directed against Russia.Russia on the other hand took it as a challenge and responded with insults once again.They have been using the word "civilised diplomacy" even though most of the offenses came form their side.The latest example would be called "Russia decides to build a gas pipeline under the baltic sea and not through Poland and Lithuania".Our president,as always, does the easiest thing and supports Poland who says that Russia is doing a bad deed and has to be stopped.They also express their hopes that the conservatives will win in Germany and that the deal will be canceled.Dont be mistaken.Im by no means saying that Lithuania is doing its best to sustaing good relations,im saying that lithuanian politics hold this set of reactions from the russian side as a declaration of a diplomatic war and are fighting it.I personally do not see any other way.During all this time we saw that going soft with the russians will make them even harsher towards us and make matters somewhat even worse.
 

Gollevainen

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Yes, Im not saying that Russia behaves like some diplomatic model student, but that it takes two to argue. I have followed Balts states, expecially Estonian relationship towards Russia and Im not been satisfied what i have observed. Balts states tends to irritate Russians when ever they get change on it (and assured that they have strong foreing back up, offcourse), in most recently whit that Victory day fiasco. So you can only imagine what russian nationalistic think of this. That trap of continiuos hatemongering needs to be cutted off, The WWII has ended 60 years ago same whit China and japan, the peacefull progress cannot go on if one party demands some unrealistic bloodmoney's thus provocating others extremist to take over.

While searching info of that SS-men monument in Vilna or Riga (cant remember where :eek: ) I came cross to this one. There is strom enforming over baltic sea and I dont like to be near if it brokes whit unbredictated results. Some thing needs to be done, by both size...

Latvia Bans Russia’s Putin Teleconference
Created: 24.09.2005 16:38 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 16:40 MSK, 5 hours 37 minutes ago


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The city council of the Latvian capital, Riga, has banned a teleconference bridge whereby Russian President Vladimir Putin was to answer questions of Russians living in Riga, RBC news agency reported.

Ugis Vidauskas, a spokesman for the council, said that the proposed television program was inconsistent with the law on the security during public celebrations and entertainments.

The teleconference was to be held on Livu Square in Riga on September 27, at the same time with the all-Russia one, that takes place annually.

Earlier Riga’s authorities said they expected Putin to urge Russians living in Latvia, mostly non-citizens, to integrate into the Latvian society and study the Latvian language. They said the Latvian foreign ministry had respect for President Putin’s desire to speak to Russians living abroad, yet, the ministry finds that the issues of bilateral relations had to be settled by governments, ministries and parliaments.

Only 86,000 of native Russian has received Latvian citizenship sice the collapse of the Soviet Union, while 424,000 live their stripped of basic rights.
 

Vytautas

Junior Member
Its in riga.And yes latvians have like angering the russians and considering a big part of their population is russian that isnt acceptable.They even banned all soviet symbols including the hammer and sickle.Im not sure,but i think they also banned images of stalin and if im not mistaken lenin too.Im not sure what the soviet union has done to latvia,but if they hate all that is russian so much,even if more than 25% of their population is russian, then it must be very serious.Well their president is from a german family.Maybe she has to do something with the waffen-ss worshipping thing...
 

Gollevainen

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Yes, i tend to mix Liethuania and Latvia together...But Finland aint no saint in this matter either. Some elements of our sosiety has started to forgotten the lesson of the WWII...hope the tension between balts and Russia wouldn flame anything serious...
 
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