Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)

[Ultra]

while searching for PAK-FA news, I found this picture:

That was a very old picture wasn't it?
It is still in the old prototype paint scheme of 2011 I think.

 

[Miragedriver]

"Technical project of the second stage engine for the PAK FA is completed, and currently is being developed design documentation for the production of prototypes of the second stage engine" said Masalov (General Director of " United Engine Building Corporation), noting that the work on the engine are carried out in full accordance with the schedule defined by the state contract.

Masalov said that the first engine of the second stage - a demonstrator, will be produced in 2015. Earlier Masalov already said to the press that the first flight of the T-50 with the new engines will be held in 2017.

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Back to bottling my Grenache

 

[kwaigonegin]

did it launch whatever it launched from its internal weapons bay???? @Air Force Brat??? is it authentic???

No way that is real. It's basically a couple videos stitched together to make it look like one continuous event with audio overlay that's why I don't believe it is real. That 1 second clip showing the bomb coming towards the camera is made up altogether even.

 

[thunderchief]

Well Chief, since this was posted by Master Deino, we are certain that he has vetted his source, he is after all a defense journal professional, is published and gets paid to do this??

I would let him to answer on that, but as far as I know it's just one person on one forum who claims to have insider information .

 

[Air Force Brat]

I would let him to answer on that, but as far as I know it's just one person on one forum who claims to have insider information .

He already has brother, his hundreds of well thought accurate/insightful posts are his credentials, his very well written and published articles are mute testimony to his veracity and standing in the international community, I'm always going to put my money on my brother Andreas! and nobody gets more out of one grainy photo than Deino, or maybe Jeff Head??

 

[b787]

He already has brother, his hundreds of well thought accurate/insightful posts are his credentials, his very well written and published articles are mute testimony to his veracity and standing in the international community, I'm always going to put my money on my brother Andreas! and nobody gets more out of one grainy photo than Deino, or maybe Jeff Head??

i think what he means is this.

PAKFA is a confidential program, all the information about it, is allowed by Russia, no information has been leaked, the program has been unveiled by Sukhoi by official sources like the case of F-35 and F-22.

J-20 and J-31 are the same but without a very official way, the Chinese just let some people take pictures but even that is allowed by official sources.

There is no leakage or insider information all has been official unveiling, in the case of China they let people take pictures, in the case of PAKFA they allow TV reporters walk around it, Sukhoi, UAC, or ROSTEC do some press releases.

This forum is just a plane spotters one

 

[Air Force Brat]

i think what he means is this.

PAKFA is a confidential program, all the information about it, is allowed by Russia, no information has been leaked, the program has been unveiled by Sukhoi by official sources like the case of F-35 and F-22.

J-20 and J-31 are the same but without a very official way, the Chinese just let some people take pictures but even that is allowed by official sources.

There is no leakage or insider information all has been official unveiling, in the case of China they let people take pictures, in the case of PAKFA they allow TV reporters walk around it, Sukhoi, UAC, or ROSTEC do some press releases.

This forum is just a plane spotters one

I guess if you have no higher aspirations than to be a "plane spotter", just try to live off any "official" information, and buy all the Sukhoi add copy as if were the Holy Book itself??? I mean for the thinking man, Deino's observations were gold on 055 ("its toast"), I believe that was Jeff's assessment as well?? just as I stated for the record, if 055 were to be rebuilt, it would be with another prototype fuselage off the line, with the wings, empennage, and gear off the original prototype 055 being added to what is basically a new airframe off the line??? tell me 787, what did we miss???

Whether its Chengdu, Sukhoi, or LockMart, airplanes all have to go through a very dignified and orderly "process", if you understand that process, its relatively simple to follow the flow? So NO we do not limit ourselves to "plane spotting", I love to look at and watch airplanes, but its a lot more fun to understand the whole process, me I'm basically into "airframes and their aerodynamics? One reason this little Sukhoi intriques me so, so actually I should have listed the manufacturers as LockMart, Sukhoi, and Chengdu by order of their openness??

I would add that I have asked the smart people here a bunch of questions? they have been very forthcoming with "insight"?

 

[aksha]

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Defence
08-May-2015 17:37 IST

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Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) is a joint Design and Development (D&D) programme between India and Russia. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) from Indian side and M/s Rosboronexport from the Russian side signed the Preliminary Design Contract on 21st December 2010. The Preliminary Design phase of the project has been completed by June, 2013.

Under the Preliminary Design Contract, the expenditure committed so far, is Rs. 1,418.91 crore.

The delivery of the FGFA to the Indian Air Force is on conclusion of the Research & Development (R&D) phase. As per the draft R&D Contract, the delivery of FGFA can commence after 94 months from the start of the contract. The Contract has not yet been signed.

This information was given by Defence Minister Shri Manohar Parrikar in a written reply to Shri Sumedhanand Sarswati in Lok Sabha today.

NAMPI/HH/RAJ

 

[Miragedriver]

Interesting video about PAK FA and I hope it is not repost. For me was the most interesting the new helmet for pilot and helmet mounted display in it. In the video, it was tested with video picture of the environment. Maybe this indicates that PAK FA will be equipped with similar complex as EODAS in F-35.

I wonder if operational Su-35 pilots also use this new helmet with HMD or the old ones.

Back to bottling my Grenache

 

[aksha]

New Robotic Russian T-50 Fighter Jet Fit for Star Wars

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Russia's new fifth-generation T-50 fighter jet, currently in the testing phase, incorporates elements of automation which make it more like a robot than a fighter plane, explains a representative from the Rostech corporation.
The Sukhoi PAK FA fighter jet, also known as T-50, is ready to go into production next year, and boasts innovative technology which renders the pilot one part of the plane's whole control system.

"The PAK FA is already to some degree a flying robot, where the aviator fulfils the function not only of pilot, but is actually one of the constituent parts of the flying apparatus," explained deputy head of the Concern Radioelectronic Technologies [KRET] unit of Rostech, Vladimir Mikheyev. "That is, the reaction of the aviator is a part of the control loop."

Mikheyev explains that "smart paneling" is another of the jet's smart features. "If we take the wingtip, from one perspective it functions as a wing, but from another it's also a part of the Himalaya active defense system."

In October KRET stated it had delivered the first batch of Himalayas for the aircraft, which were developed by a KRET subsidiary in Kaluga and constructed at the Stavropol Radioplant Signal.

"The unique system of active and passive radars and optical rangefinders is integrated into the aircraft body and acts as a 'smart skin'. Its use not only enhances the aircraft’s protection against jamming and its survivability, but also counters, to a great extent, the effects of low-observability [stealth] technology of enemy aircraft," explained KRET.

In January KRET lifted the lid on a number of the T-50's stealth capabilities, announcing that "the aircraft company Sukhoi managed to greatly reduce the effective surface scattering of the PAK FA, which is the basic element for visibility on aircraft radars."

"In order to achieve this level of stealth, designers moved all weapons to the inside of the plane and also changed the shape of the air intake channel, also lining its walls with a material that absorbs radio waves."

"Thanks to these new design solutions, the T-50 is now ahead of not only all other fighters of the Russian Army, but also foreign models. For example, the visibility of the American fifth-generation F-22 fighter is 0.3-0.4 square meters," said KRET, while the value of this indicator for the T-50 fighter is between 0.1 and 1 square meters.

"The T-50 is the first Russian combat aircraft made from a high proportion of composite materials, making up 25% of the mass of the aircraft and covering 70% of its surface," explained KRET.

The T-50 is set to replace the Sukhoi Su-27 fourth generation fighter jet, known also by its NATO name Flanker B, which entered service with the Soviet Air Forces in 1985, and the Mig-29, known by NATO as Fulcrum which entered service in 1983.

Work on the conception of fifth generation fighter jets began in the late 1980s in the USA and USSR; though there is no universally agreed set of features for the title of fifth-generation fighter jet, many hold that the only combat-ready fifth-generation fighter is the US Air Force's Lockheed F-22 Raptor, introduced in 2005.

In December Russia's United Aircraft Corporation announced that production of the fighter is ready to begin in 2016, following the completion of the testing phase. According to spokesman Vladislav Goncharenko, 55 PAK FA jets will be delivered to the Russian Air Force by 2020.