Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)
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YES! and I'm holding my breath! NOT! we shall see young "Skywalker"!
You think they will produce similar delays like the F-35 program ?
They already having nontrivial delays.
Significant serial production was supposed to have taken place already and, iirc, 20 odd production examples were supposed to be introduced in 2017. That clearly has not happened.
It's half way through 2019 and we've not seen the two production examples that were ordered around the end of 2017 either at this point. If I were a gambling man, I'd bet we won't see them until next year.
If you count from the first flight of the first F-35A to its IOC, that would be 10 years. We're rapidly approaching that now for the Russians. If you count from the first flight of the X-35, then they have about 5 to 6 more years before they are on par with the F-35 for delays. 76 Su-57s 18 years after the flight of the first prototype is worse than the F-35 program.
Skywatcher
Captain
Indeed given past Russian performance.
No, they can only hope?? they've only got 10 airplanes, so no, they're never gonna have F-35 delays.... to be honest, they grounded those early birds and had to tear them down and rebuild them due to cracking, I think 01, 02, maybe even 03, then 05 burnt to a crisp, and they took the center fuse, main fuse for 06 off the batch line and built it with 055's wings and empennage, so they've had plenty of delays, LOL...
Really amazing how theyve managed to build such a thin frame actually. On other 5th gens, the space between the intakes would have been where the bays would have been located. What they've got means the entire fighter pulling hard, only has a thin piece of space to build the frame around where bending moments are probably very if not most significant along the fuselage.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Not quite. That space is where the Russians put there weapons bays. The difference is that in the other twin engine F22, J20 and FC31 keep there engines close in using a consolidated body plan. The weapons bay taking space around the intakes and serpentine inlets. With a single fuselage.
The SU57 even more than YF23 before it separated there engines into two nacelles.
The space between the engine nacelles being used for the main weapons bay comes at a cost. That space is lost to internal fuel. To make up for that the Russians made her larger.
It is a beautiful, even petite airframe, and that may be where some of the early cracking came from, now beefed up apparently, it seems to perform very well. On the other hand, there is very little to commend it as an L/O design by their own admission?
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