Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)

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I now watched the footage, if you didn't know how super-maneuverability would look like :) just jump to this moment:
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I now watched the footage, if you didn't know how super-maneuverability would look like :) just jump to this moment:
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Awesome aerial display, and let me be clear on two points,,,

1. The RUSSIANS are MASTER SHOWMEN!

2. There's NO DOUBT that the PAK-FA is a very maneuverable aircraft, and that it "might" take on the F-22 in a "KNIFE FIGHT", and win, no doubt it would likely beat an F-35 in a knife fight!
"Knife Fight", close in visual range, guns up, but the PAK-FA is highly unlikely to be that opportunity.

three D OVT is the bomb in an airshow aircraft!

now in the real world, this airplane is fast, maneuverable, and loaded for BEAR! but, its not very stealthy, and its not "wired" into a network nearly as seamlessly as are the F-35 and F-22, it will NOT have the situational awareness, nor the ability to launch others weapons, nor the Low Observability that will enable the F-35 to "drop it from long range"!
 

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Ahem!, Ahem! cough!, Cough!,,,,,,, Ok, I drank a bunch of iced tea,,,, and I am staring deep, deep, deep, into my very tall tea glass, and as my crushed ice is melting??? slowly melting", hurry up,,, ahhh yeeeesss!

there amongst the tea leaves, I see the Russians, working hard on PAK-FA, using the Chinese SU-35 donation to bring PAK-FA up to speed,,,,,,,,whats that,,,,, um yes, yes, its becoming clearer?? still let me "roll my glass"?? oh my GOSH! the Chinese are going to buy PAK-FA to operate off their carriers??? they are,,,but I was just pulling your leg about the tea leaves??? HEH! HEH!

now back to the Chinese buying PAK-FA to operate off their carriers, its true, the Indians will buy the F-35, and the Russians are guying to build and sell the Chinese a Naval T-50!

yep, with the obnoxious, ignorant liberals going all PHOBIC, like mad dogs over Russia, and really foaming at the mouth, the feel similar things about China, they will encourage a minor paranoia that will drive Russia and China together to form a MUCH MORE DURABLE ALLIANCE!

you heard it here first boys and girls, here on the PAK-FA thread, PAK-FA is the perfect CHINESE NAVAL FIGHTER aircraft!
 

Equation

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Ahem!, Ahem! cough!, Cough!,,,,,,, Ok, I drank a bunch of iced tea,,,, and I am staring deep, deep, deep, into my very tall tea glass, and as my crushed ice is melting??? slowly melting", hurry up,,, ahhh yeeeesss!

there amongst the tea leaves, I see the Russians, working hard on PAK-FA, using the Chinese SU-35 donation to bring PAK-FA up to speed,,,,,,,,whats that,,,,, um yes, yes, its becoming clearer?? still let me "roll my glass"?? oh my GOSH! the Chinese are going to buy PAK-FA to operate off their carriers??? they are,,,but I was just pulling your leg about the tea leaves??? HEH! HEH!

now back to the Chinese buying PAK-FA to operate off their carriers, its true, the Indians will buy the F-35, and the Russians are guying to build and sell the Chinese a Naval T-50!

yep, with the obnoxious, ignorant liberals going all PHOBIC, like mad dogs over Russia, and really foaming at the mouth, the feel similar things about China, they will encourage a minor paranoia that will drive Russia and China together to form a MUCH MORE DURABLE ALLIANCE!

you heard it here first boys and girls, here on the PAK-FA thread, PAK-FA is the perfect CHINESE NAVAL FIGHTER aircraft!

I think you had too much alcohol on your Long Island Ice Tea.;) PAK-FA is no where near the stealth and avionics ability of China's J-20 or even J-31. Heck Russia needs new air craft carrier ship badly, therefore they would buy from China before China even care to think about purchasing PAK-FA from Russia who is still suffering from economic sanctions.
 

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Awesome aerial display, and let me be clear on two points,,,

1. The RUSSIANS are MASTER SHOWMEN!

2. There's NO DOUBT that the PAK-FA is a very maneuverable aircraft, and that it "might" take on the F-22 in a "KNIFE FIGHT", and win, no doubt it would likely beat an F-35 in a knife fight!
"Knife Fight", close in visual range, guns up, but the PAK-FA is highly unlikely to be that opportunity.

three D OVT is the bomb in an airshow aircraft!

now in the real world, this airplane is fast, maneuverable, and loaded for BEAR! but, its not very stealthy, and its not "wired" into a network nearly as seamlessly as are the F-35 and F-22, it will NOT have the situational awareness, nor the ability to launch others weapons, nor the Low Observability that will enable the F-35 to "drop it from long range"!
what scientific base do you have beyond
nationalism?
Ahem!, Ahem! cough!, Cough!,,,,,,, Ok, I drank a bunch of iced tea,,,, and I am staring deep, deep, deep, into my very tall tea glass, and as my crushed ice is melting??? slowly melting", hurry up,,, ahhh yeeeesss!

there amongst the tea leaves, I see the Russians, working hard on PAK-FA, using the Chinese SU-35 donation to bring PAK-FA up to speed,,,,,,,,whats that,,,,, um yes, yes, its becoming clearer?? still let me "roll my glass"?? oh my GOSH! the Chinese are going to buy PAK-FA to operate off their carriers??? they are,,,but I was just pulling your leg about the tea leaves??? HEH! HEH!

now back to the Chinese buying PAK-FA to operate off their carriers, its true, the Indians will buy the F-35, and the Russians are guying to build and sell the Chinese a Naval T-50!

yep, with the obnoxious, ignorant liberals going all PHOBIC, like mad dogs over Russia, and really foaming at the mouth, the feel similar things about China, they will encourage a minor paranoia that will drive Russia and China together to form a MUCH MORE DURABLE ALLIANCE!

you heard it here first boys and girls, here on the PAK-FA thread, PAK-FA is the perfect CHINESE NAVAL FIGHTER aircraft!
china is not going to buy it
 

b787

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I think you had too much alcohol on your Long Island Ice Tea.;) PAK-FA is no where near the stealth and avionics ability of China's J-20 or even J-31. Heck Russia needs new air craft carrier ship badly, therefore they would buy from China before China even care to think about purchasing PAK-FA from Russia who is still suffering from economic sanctions.
since you are no engineer or designer you are just trolling:p give scientific bases and detailed technical manual based information something you do not have
true show performance

 
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Equation

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since you are no engineer or designer you are just trolling:p give scientific bases and detailed technical manual based information something you do not have
true show performance


Show me the technical manual where it says that the T-50 is a true 5th generation fighter that has a superior stealth tech than the J-20. NO? I thought so. Don't need to be an engineer or designer to figure that out.:p:cool:
 

manqiangrexue

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Show me the technical manual where it says that the T-50 is a true 5th generation fighter that has a superior stealth tech than the J-20. NO? I thought so. Don't need to be an engineer or designer to figure that out.:p:cool:
Brah, you actually do need to be an engineer or designer to figure that out, not any engineer or designer, one with knowledge of the material science behind radar evasion, active detection cancelling technology, and with access to classified information. There's no "manual" for J-20 or PAK FA (or any active fighter jet) available; the closest to that would be that Sukhoi claims that it has a good degree of stealth though I don't recall them ever comparing to J-20. Why are people here attacking the PAK FA design and better yet, why is this a discussion of J-20 vs PAK FA? It's against the rules and highly unlikely to yield any fruit.
 
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