Russian Su-57 Aircraft Thread (PAK-FA and IAF FGFA)

Air Force Brat

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@Jura, if you care to know:

Nothing wrong with the red star. Although it is heavily used by Communist block, but not exclusive. It is still on the New Zealand flag and Flag of California and Washington DC. See this
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and this early USAF tail insignia.
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Don't hate the rock just because one has an issue with the guy who sat there moment ago.

I have a deja vu, a similar thing has popped up before in this forum in another thread about swastika as a symbol of Buddhist temple on maps in Japan.

@AFB, I know you are kidding.

Huummmm! yeah a little bit,,,, and I know Putin is a bad dude, and no I wouldn't want to lose my many freedoms under a communist regime, like Hillary Rodham Clinton,,, that's why I list my location as Central Obamastan, after Obama turned the US in a former Soviet Satelite Republik??

but, I understand and admire the Russian people, and the Chinese people, in fact I probably have an inordinate fondness for them both, I have a love and a concern that probably only the Lord could have placed in my heart?? I hate what the liberal media does to Russia and China, and they do the same thing to Trump.

If General Flynn had remained in his post, and the Dirty Politicians hadn't viliefied RUSSIA, and Hillary blaming the Russians for her losing the election?? President Trump, and President Putin would have put a lot of this NASTY KRAP that the Dems stirred up behind them, and President Xi and Trump no doubt as, many differences as we do have, have a start to a good relationship.

So yes, as Master Jura reminds life in a communist country is very difficult, but I do admire the Russians, and their amazing aircraft, there's really nothing quite like the Flanker, and the Flankers have had the benefit of some master showmen, pushing the Flanker to its limits and beyond, no doubt they have "beat on" the T-50, pushing it and even breaking it where it was weak, in order to get to the airplane they have today, a much better airplane! however, I would still take 055 in a heartbeat, Red Star and all, maybe I could find her a little work as a US contractor, playing the OP-FOR!

actually I'm just holding my breath and hoping the Chinese let me have the little black J-31 prototype?? I think I would qualify to fly that under "light sport" don't you??? Heh! Heh! Heh!

oh and got up close and personal with those two Mig-29s here in Central Obamastan, took some closer pictures, and they are somewhat crude??? but very, well built.. looks like "pop rivets", with a steel core pulling the skins together, loved touching them, and feeling them, neither one will likely ever fly again, but I can always hope??

First flight of Natasha was on U-tube in Dec 2010, my nephew got to sit in Natasha, and I was invited to come up and ride in the Mig-21 they used to have, now that, would have scared me???

the company that flew them used to incorporated as "RED AIR",,,,, then became "US AIR", Dr. Bruninga, an Air Force Reserve Officer and F-16 pilot, and my little brothers Flight Physician told him they had a bad accident, and were now defunct???
 

taxiya

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Huummmm! yeah a little bit,,,, and I know Putin is a bad dude, and no I wouldn't want to lose my many freedoms under a communist regime, like Hillary Rodham Clinton,,, that's why I list my location as Central Obamastan, after Obama turned the US in a former Soviet Satelite Republik??

but, I understand and admire the Russian people, and the Chinese people, in fact I probably have an inordinate fondness for them both, I have a love and a concern that probably only the Lord could have placed in my heart?? I hate what the liberal media does to Russia and China, and they do the same thing to Trump.

If General Flynn had remained in his post, and the Dirty Politicians hadn't viliefied RUSSIA, and Hillary blaming the Russians for her losing the election?? President Trump, and President Putin would have put a lot of this NASTY KRAP that the Dems stirred up behind them, and President Xi and Trump no doubt as, many differences as we do have, have a start to a good relationship.

So yes, as Master Jura reminds life in a communist country is very difficult, but I do admire the Russians, and their amazing aircraft, there's really nothing quite like the Flanker, and the Flankers have had the benefit of some master showmen, pushing the Flanker to its limits and beyond, no doubt they have "beat on" the T-50, pushing it and even breaking it where it was weak, in order to get to the airplane they have today, a much better airplane! however, I would still take 055 in a heartbeat, Red Star and all, maybe I could find her a little work as a US contractor, playing the OP-FOR!

actually I'm just holding my breath and hoping the Chinese let me have the little black J-31 prototype?? I think I would qualify to fly that under "light sport" don't you??? Heh! Heh! Heh!

oh and got up close and personal with those two Mig-29s here in Central Obamastan, took some closer pictures, and they are somewhat crude??? but very, well built.. looks like "pop rivets", with a steel core pulling the skins together, loved touching them, and feeling them, neither one will likely ever fly again, but I can always hope??

First flight of Natasha was on U-tube in Dec 2010, my nephew got to sit in Natasha, and I was invited to come up and ride in the Mig-21 they used to have, now that, would have scared me???

the company that flew them used to incorporated as "RED AIR",,,,, then became "US AIR", Dr. Bruninga, an Air Force Reserve Officer and F-16 pilot, and my little brothers Flight Physician told him they had a bad accident, and were now defunct???
I respect your choice of your preferred way of life as everyone should make their own choice.

I also understand other members like Jura having a negative feeling of the Communist era in past Eastern Europe. The communist state in Czechoslovakia was not a home grown movement, but rather a foreign imposed one, so it is natural people there disliked it. That is why I believe any revolution or social change must not be exported.

What I always want to up hold is that we should never let emotions to blind or distract ourselves from the truth "red star is just a symbol used by many, Poseidon's fork is not evil (Robert Langdon)", even that emotion is justified.

Now after repeating myself I feel that I sound like a missionary priest. :eek: I need to practice silence.
 

Deino

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Indeed an impressive image, but IMO the whale-camo of no. 055 was the best.
 

Air Force Brat

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yeah Squadrons of Red Stars around, I'm the lead Bandit! you are just my wingman, they might let you escape, but not me though

Yep, but with a couple of F-22s, we would be like Ninja's in Black Pajama's! they'd never know we were there?? Heh, Heh, Heh, nobody said defending the Free World would be easy or glorious, but do it, we must, my young Padwan! and yes I am of course your faithful wingman.
 
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