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Stealthflanker

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152mm Gun would make the tenk as huge as Western analogue. I also expect considerable weight increase from originally 55 Tonne to something more like 60-65 tonne. Making it essentially OB-195. But i guess electronics would get smaller and hopefully the tank would not getting taller beyond 3 meter.
 

gelgoog

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As it seems, Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) handed over the second and final batch in 2023 of new-build Su-57 multirole fighters to the Russian MoD (VKS). However it is not known, how many aircraft have been delivered in each batch.
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"In 2022, the Russian Ministry of Defense received six Su-57 aircraft : two in May and four in December. In total, as of January 1, 2023, ten serial fifth-generation fighters were transferred to the Russian Aerospace Forces.

In September, the UAC handed over to the Aerospace Forces the first batch of Su-57s, scheduled for delivery in 2023. The number of aircraft transferred was not reported, nor was the number of fighters delivered on December 27 reported. However, given that the head of Rostec Sergei Chemezov announced almost double annual increase in Su-57 production, it can be assumed that in 2023 the Aerospace Forces received 8-10 fifth-generation fighters, and thus the troops have about 20 Su-57 aircraft."
 

gelgoog

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Is this statement from the Kremlin really a recent on?
You can read a whole transcript of this session, which should have happened this December 7th, in the Kremlin's website:
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"Yu Xinyu: Mr President,

I am delighted to see you. I am Yu Xinyu from Passion company.

Here is my question: what do you think about the future of technological cooperation among states considering all the restrictions imposed primarily by the United States on China? They reinforced China’s aspirations to be independent and self-reliant.

I am primarily referring to sharing critical technology. Are there any concerns that this could slow down technological progress since every country would have to go through the entire development cycle on its own to master each technology? Many will have to basically reinvent the wheel. What path will Russia take? What are the sectors where you are ready or not ready to work with others?

Vladimir Putin: Let me begin with China. We are ready to cooperate in all areas. There are no restrictions here, and this goes for military technology too. When we think about the future and the world order of tomorrow, and when we think about ways to ensure our security, we must think outside of the box instead of limiting our relations to just buyers and sellers. We are thinking about the future, and we are thinking about technology. This is my first point.

Now let me address the main point of your question regarding technological restrictions and whether certain countries would have to start from scratch and develop solutions from the ground up, or, in other words, to reinvent the wheel. You know, I raised this issue in my remarks. These restrictions are designed to ensure their unconditional dominance and preserve it at any cost. There have always been restrictions. Those who invented gunpowder did everything they could to keep the secret to themselves, but nevertheless it eventually became the legacy of all of humanity, for better or worse. The same goes for restrictions resulting from all these export control lists like CoCom. They did have a restraining effect on the Soviet Union’s development, but the country still succeeded in delivering on all the objectives it pursued.

In the 1990s, with the Soviet Union gone, it seemed that these CoCom lists were cancelled, at least officially, but in reality they remained in effect. Today, the so-called collective West, primarily the United States, wants to preserve its dominance at any cost, primarily in terms of technology. Is this even possible? Of course not, just as it was impossible before. It was impossible in the Middle Ages and during the Cold War, so how can it be possible today, in the internet age, in the era of speed and exchanges, including scientific contacts? This is simply impossible. This is the first thing I wanted to say.

Second, at a certain stage someone may succeed in concealing something, but this can backfire by preventing them from getting something when they need it. This is my second point.

Third, we should not think about these limitations. We must look forward, move forward and take action across the board, primarily with regard to education, which in itself is becoming a factor in economic growth. To achieve this, we must work together with those who are ready to work in a modern and civilised way. We must create common research and educational platforms within the BRICS framework, establish common investment platforms, and launch new projects, starting with education.

If we act across a wide range of fields, if we support and help each other, no restrictions, imposed by those trying to retain certain privileges, will hinder us. I have no doubt about that.

We will also work with the People's Republic of China. We have a very good and trusting relationship with President Xi Jinping, and there are ties at the government level and in the business community. I have no doubt that no one will be able to stop us or slow down our development."
 
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Deino

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You can read a whole transcript of this session, which should have happened this December 7th, in the Kremlin's website:
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"Yu Xinyu: Mr President,

I am delighted to see you. I am Yu Xinyu from Passion company.

Here is my question: what do you think about the future of technological cooperation among states considering all the restrictions imposed primarily by the United States on China? They reinforced China’s aspirations to be independent and self-reliant.

I am primarily referring to sharing critical technology. Are there any concerns that this could slow down technological progress since every country would have to go through the entire development cycle on its own to master each technology? Many will have to basically reinvent the wheel. What path will Russia take? What are the sectors where you are ready or not ready to work with others?

Vladimir Putin: Let me begin with China. We are ready to cooperate in all areas. There are no restrictions here, and this goes for military technology too. When we think about the future and the world order of tomorrow, and when we think about ways to ensure our security, we must think outside of the box instead of limiting our relations to just buyers and sellers. We are thinking about the future, and we are thinking about technology. This is my first point.

Now let me address the main point of your question regarding technological restrictions and whether certain countries would have to start from scratch and develop solutions from the ground up, or, in other words, to reinvent the wheel. You know, I raised this issue in my remarks. These restrictions are designed to ensure their unconditional dominance and preserve it at any cost. There have always been restrictions. Those who invented gunpowder did everything they could to keep the secret to themselves, but nevertheless it eventually became the legacy of all of humanity, for better or worse. The same goes for restrictions resulting from all these export control lists like CoCom. They did have a restraining effect on the Soviet Union’s development, but the country still succeeded in delivering on all the objectives it pursued.

In the 1990s, with the Soviet Union gone, it seemed that these CoCom lists were cancelled, at least officially, but in reality they remained in effect. Today, the so-called collective West, primarily the United States, wants to preserve its dominance at any cost, primarily in terms of technology. Is this even possible? Of course not, just as it was impossible before. It was impossible in the Middle Ages and during the Cold War, so how can it be possible today, in the internet age, in the era of speed and exchanges, including scientific contacts? This is simply impossible. This is the first thing I wanted to say.

Second, at a certain stage someone may succeed in concealing something, but this can backfire by preventing them from getting something when they need it. This is my second point.

Third, we should not think about these limitations. We must look forward, move forward and take action across the board, primarily with regard to education, which in itself is becoming a factor in economic growth. To achieve this, we must work together with those who are ready to work in a modern and civilised way. We must create common research and educational platforms within the BRICS framework, establish common investment platforms, and launch new projects, starting with education.

If we act across a wide range of fields, if we support and help each other, no restrictions, imposed by those trying to retain certain privileges, will hinder us. I have no doubt about that.

We will also work with the People's Republic of China. We have a very good and trusting relationship with President Xi Jinping, and there are ties at the government level and in the business community. I have no doubt that no one will be able to stop us or slow down our development."


Thank you so much!
 

Soldier30

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Footage has appeared of Russian communications units using the new MP-2IM hardware communications machine. The integrated MP-2IM communications hardware is located on the BTR-80 K1Sh1 and is shown for the first time in 2021. The hardware room is intended for deployment at the communication center, control point of a brigade of intra-node data transmission networks for encrypted and open telephone communications and providing radio and wired communication channels to control point subscribers located in command and control vehicles.
The MP-2IM communication hardware provides up to 7 communication directions, with a communication range via VHF radio stations of up to 40 kilometers, via microwave radio stations up to 20 kilometers, and via radio relay stations up to 30 kilometers. The composition of the equipment used in the MP-2IM communication machine is shown on the screen. The radius of the distributed signal can reach hundreds of kilometers if you use several MP-2IM machines located in a single chain at a distance of several tens of kilometers. The MP-2IM hardware communication vehicle systems are deployed in 20 minutes; the communication vehicle has a crew of four people.

 

pmc

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further confirmation new engine is close to production. and some other new information.
I think S-70 is close and that has much more range and stealth than Su-57.
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Western and Ukrainian media some time ago unanimously advertised the American Excalibur guided missile. However, our Krasnopol can hit moving small targets, while the Excalibur cannot - this is due to the peculiarities of its guidance. In addition, the Excalibur control system turned out to be highly susceptible to the operation of Russian electronic warfare systems.
With the help of our modules, hundreds of Ukrainian military targets have already been destroyed to date. I can add that work is underway on an improved version of the modules, which will significantly increase the range of use of aerial bombs.
Many people are concerned about the question: when will a second-stage engine appear on a fifth-generation fighter?

– When all his tests are completely completed. You understand that engines of this level are not created at the snap of a finger. I won’t give specific dates, I’ll just say that the final stage is close.

The important point is that the Su-57 meets all the criteria of a fifth-generation fighter with a first-stage engine. The main value of this fighter is its intellectual and information capabilities. It has reduced radar signature, carries powerful weapons, and is capable of controlling unmanned aerial vehicles. Today, the board is filled to capacity, so to speak, with intelligent systems. This “stuffing” provides it with the broadest capabilities for detecting and selecting targets, and interacting with many other systems. This is the main essence of the Su-57, and it has confirmed its characteristics in combat conditions. I think, based on the combination of characteristics and versatility, this is the best fighter in the world.

It says twice number of Su-57 created compared to before in 2023. you can also interpret that every fighter like Su-34/35 are built at twice the numbers compared to 2022. previously there were claim that Russia can build 100 fighters per year. not sure it include MIG-29 factory. and R-37M approximately twice of range of competitors.
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For new fighters, the demand has doubled, meaning The word, including on the Su-57 fighter
Among the main advantages of the fighter is the possibility of using R-37M missiles, which showed high efficiency during the Russian special military operation. Thanks to these missiles, the Su-57 fighters are able to strike air targets at a distance approximately twice greater than their American and Chinese counterpart
 

Gloire_bb

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Current understanding is more than 10 planes this year (i.e. ~squadron), which is indeed way higher than both the original plan for 2023(7?) and 2022 deliveries (6).
Given that geopolitically, that's on top of J-20a production numbers, well.

That's quite a development.
 
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