Romance Of The Three Kingdoms

So Taiwan wasn't originally a part of China? And one more question, who were the Nanman? Do they still exist today? I know Zhuge Liang beat them and all, but where did these Nanman folk come from? Are they from Vietnam?

Rome was not build in one day.


Nanman's meaning is southern man or south barbarian. The nanman were a rebel tribe located in southern china that started uprisings. Nanman was located in modern Mandalay City, Myanmar (Burma).

TheHarkonnen said:

So Taiwan wasn't originally a part of China? And one more question, who were the Nanman? Do they still exist today? I know Zhuge Liang beat them and all, but where did these Nanman folk come from? Are they from Vietnam?

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This was the ancient history of China. China has expanded dramatically ever since his birth. His terrirory has extended outwards from a core area in the north china, If that is the "Original China" you were implying, then most of China today are not part of the "Original China". It is just like any other big countries, US, Russia, they are all like this.

As for your Nanman question, I think they were some minorities living in the mountain and forest areas of southwestern China. I think they are primarily Zhuan or Hung, two main minorities in China. Were they from Vietnam? I don't know.

As far as I knew, Nanman was part of Tai minority group. Vietnam was part of Bai Yue or hundred Yue, and at that time period Vietnam was part of Jiaozhou control by Wu which included north Vietnam, Canton and Guangxi.

KYli said:

Zhuge Liang 's calling of the wind is also fictional.

In the battle of ChiBi, eventhrough with overwhelming superiority in numbers, Cao Cao failed seize the initiative. He also sacrificld his mobility by lashing his hundreds of vessels togehter. Cao Cao's troop were not good in naval warfare, and his arrogance made him negligence. The Wu's troops are actually superior in naval warefare, and after realizing that a fire started among boats will spread throughout others. Huang Gai advised Zhou Yu to mount an attack by using ten large vessels filled with oil. So the credit should go to Huang Gai. BTW If Cao Cao did not fled with gather his forces, the Wei would not suffered so much.

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but the Wind itself wasn't fictional, Wu was informed by the local fisherman about the unusual weather pattern in the region. Zhuge Liang has nothing to do with it, nor was he able to read the weather.

it is believe that disease was already affecting Wei's forces as the northerner were not resistance being new to the region. it is debatable if the naval battle affected the outcome, because the tide was really turn when Wei broke camp. so something else must had happened, but each side presents a different historical record of how the encampment broke. so it is hard to tell, we just know Wei did lose 100 of 1000s of men; it was the defining battle of the period as with that ended any chance for quick reunification of the land and divided the land in 3. :nono: :nono: :nono:

I've noticed that a lot of the battles are one on one in the Three Kingdoms
is this realistic or just artistic licence because it's kind of annoying

FreeAsia2000 said:

I've noticed that a lot of the battles are one on one in the Three Kingdoms
is this realistic or just artistic licence because it's kind of annoying

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One-to-one duels between generals are fictional. It is just a way to waste general's life, and destory solider's morale if the general is killed. Nobody will do that.

i admit that “Romance Of The Three Kingdoms”（i prefer Legend to Romance, though）is a really good novel, but if you everybody wanna find out the real history, you got to see the book named "SanGuo Zhi", it's a creditable history record

radiowave21 said:

i admit that “Romance Of The Three Kingdoms”（i prefer Legend to Romance, though）is a really good novel, but if you everybody wanna find out the real history, you got to see the book named "SanGuo Zhi", it's a creditable history record

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I've read that it's quite a boring read like

May 10th: It rained today. The emperor listened to some music

May 11th: It was sunny today. There was an invasion. Not many people
injured.

FreeAsia2000 said:

I've read that it's quite a boring read like

May 10th: It rained today. The emperor listened to some music

May 11th: It was sunny today. There was an invasion. Not many people
injured.

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That's probably why it's a credible source, since it's like a real history record of what happened daily.