Reverse Brain Drain happening

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
A major example is Kai Fu Lee. He worked with SGI, Apple, Microsoft then Google. One of the top guys in IT today, an idol among many young Chinese geeks.

When Google hired him from Microsoft, Steve Ballmer was said to throw a fit, smashing chairs, and swearing "I will crush Google!". Kai Fu Lee eventually became head of Google China. His resignation from Google to create a new venture capital start up in China for Chinese innovators created much waves in the IT press.

But it appears not quite the right fit. He was brought in to improve Googles market share, while making technology improvements, he didnt really achieve Google Chinas main objective. I wonder how many times this will repeat itself with the returnees.

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New broom may sweep Google China ahead
By Sherman So

HONG KONG - The sudden resignation of Lee Kai-fu from his position as head of Google China, where he led failing efforts by the world's dominant Internet search engine to catch mainland market leader Baidu, prompted widespread speculation over why he quit and what his new plans might be.

One near constant is that his departure, announced last month, is a major setback for the company. Whatever truth there is in that view, one point missing in the discussion is whether Lee, 47, was really a suitable person to run Google's operation in China today? Or can John Liu, who is assuming most of Lee's business and operational responsibilities, be a better candidate?

United States-based Google formally started its office in China in mid-2005. Then, one by one, its senior executives left. "Google did not hire the right people," said a venture capitalist active in the



China Internet industry.

Initially, the hiring of every senior executive at Google China had to be approved by Google founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page. "Those who appealed to the Google founders were expatriate executives from top technology firms, such as Microsoft, Hewlett Packard and so on. But they were not the right people for running a Chinese Internet business," said the venture capitalist.

"A friend of mine joined Google China. He was paid around US$285,000 a year, a huge sum by China standards. But after working hard for a year, he lost all his initiative. He hung around the company for another year doing essentially nothing. Then he left. He is now thinking of starting his own business."

The poor fit of the senior management team partly explains why Google was unable to increase its grip on the market in China. The company had a 23% market share when it first set up its China office, in the second quarter of 2005, according to Beijing-based researcher Analysys, and increased this to only 29% by the second quarter of 2009. Baidu, its arch rival in China, expanded its market share to 62% from 37% in the same period.

For a long time, Lee was the only survivor from the first batch of Google China senior executives. Now, he has also left. While this might be a loss of talent, it might also be a good opportunity for Google to build a less prestigious, but more local and more practical management team in China.

In several respects, Google in China has been following Baidu's lead practically from the start. The first instance of this was Google's decision to employ agents to sell keywords - something Baidu pioneered after finding that most small business owners in the mainland are not sufficiently knowledgeable of technology to go online and bid for keywords themselves. When Google opened its office in 2005, it immediately signed up 25 local agents to sell keywords across the country.

The American company also followed Baidu's lead in targeting the customers of Internet cafes, which are heavily used in China particularly by young people. It lobbied with Internet cafe owners to make its website (Google.cn) the default search engine on their computer browsers. Lee also arranged for Google headquarters staff to visit Internet cafes, so they would appreciate how important these were as the point of first contact with search engines for many young Internet users in China.

In America, the use of such cafes is often limited to tourists checking e-mails. In China, 42.4% of the country's 298 million Internet users go online in the cafes, according to a 2008 survey by the state-owned China Internet Network Information Center.

After Baidu bought Hao123.com, the directory website most popular with Internet cafe patrons, Google bought the second most popular, 265.com.

Recently, Google also started to advertise itself in Beijing's underground railway stations, promoting the company's mobile search service, g.cn. This step is contrary to its past belief that if the product quality is good, there is no need for advertisements - viral marketing, or word-of-mouth, alone should be enough to attractive new users. In contrast, Baidu has promoted itself in television, newspaper, billboards and various other media, since it raised enough capital to do so in its US$195 million listing on Nasdaq in August 2005.

And just like Baidu, Google recently launched an MP3 music download/streaming services - although in Google's case all the music provided has appropriate copyright.

In his efforts to promote use of Google in China, Lee was up against Li Yanghong, or Robin Li, who founded Baidu in 2000 when he was 32 years old. The Chinese search engine serves an estimated 3 billion web search requests every day. Since the company's shares listed in 2005 at US$25 per share, their price has surged 1,481% per cent to US$399. The stock has climbed 195% since the beginning of this year, outpacing even the 65 per cent gain by Google China's parent.

Google headquarters seems to understand that if it wants to stay in China, it has to adapt to the local culture. In fact, a former senior Google China executive said localization and relations with the Chinese government are the biggest problems the company faces. If that is the case, Lee, a US-trained scientist born in Taiwan, might not be the most suitable person to lead Google China [1].

On the other hand, John Liu, who leads Google's Greater China sales team and is to assume most of Lee's business and operational responsibilities, might be a better candidate, although a much less well-known one. For a start, Liu was born in China and went on to study mathematics at the Beijing Teacher's University. He then taught for a while at the Eastern China Teacher's University in Shanghai, before going overseas for further study. This has given him a better understanding of China culture and what people really want.

Before Liu joined Google, he served for six years as chief executive of SK Telecom China, a unit of South Korea's largest cellphone operator. During his tenure, SK Telecom bought a 6.6% stake in cellphone operator China Unicom, becoming its second-largest shareholder. It is unlikely that SK Telecom could have closed the deal without Liu handling relations with the Chinese government.

Without a doubt, Lee contributed a lot to Google's China operation. He significantly improved Google's capability to search using Chinese characters. In 2005, Baidu was a much better Chinese-language search engine than Google. Baidu even ran a TV commercial ridiculing Google for not knowing Chinese. Lee's first task was to improve the search engine's capability in this area and by 2007, most analysts agreed Google was as good as Baidu at Chinese search, if not better.

Lee also built a very good research facility for Google in China, said Jacky Huang, research manager, digital marketplace research at IDC China. "Now that the research institution is completed, Google can easily develop whatever products it wants," said Huang.

But being a scientist, Lee seems to prefer projects that are technologically challenging, rather than those with great market potential.

"Baidu prefers applications that are vastly popular but simple in terms of technology," an industry analyst. "Google China favors projects that require advanced technology but are not necessary very popular." In fact, many of Google's mobile applications have been criticized for being too sophisticated for the common mobile users in China, one example being a map showing Beijing traffic, places of interests around a particular area, and where friends are nearby. Most users "just want entertainment," said Jay Chang, chief financial officer at Kongzhong, a leading mobile data service provider in China.

Most recently, Google on October 16 said it will officially launch a Chinese mobile phone voice search service in the coming weeks. This new service will save users the trouble of inputting words with mobile phones. Users only need to speak out in Putonghua, also known in the West as Mandarin, the contents they want to search. The English version of this service has been applied in many mobile phones since it was launched in 2008.

In comparison, many of Baidu's popular applications are not complicated in term of technology, such as Postbar (Tieba), a virtual forum where users choose their own topics, or Baidu Knows (Zhidao), a community-driven knowledge base where users answer one another's questions, or its MP3 music download services.

Google has found its foothold in China and established a fine research facility. Now its priority should be to increase market share and catch up with Baidu. In that case, a well-known scientist might not be as good as an executive who understands the local culture and local way of doing business. Moreover, "John Liu is a tough person. He should be able to match Baidu," said one of his former colleagues.

Note
1. Lee Kai-fu was born in Taiwan and emigrated to the US in 1973 while still in high school. He earned a PhD in computer science from Carnegie Mellon University. While working as an assistant professor there, he developed the world's first speaker-independent continuous speech-recognition system, which BusinessWeek honored as the "Most Important Innovation" of 1988.

After leaving teaching, Lee spent six years at Apple Computer, where he developed QuickTime, QuickDraw 3D, QuickTime VR and PlainTalk speech technologies. He joined Microsoft in 1998 and was responsible for advanced natural language and user interface technologies. He also founded Microsoft Research Asia, now regarded as one of the best research center in the world.

He then joined Google. Lee was the founding president of Google China, serving from July 2005 through September 4, 2009. He is one of the most prominent figures in the Chinese Internet sector and his personal blog is widely followed in the country. He runs a popular website (
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) to help young Chinese people achieve careers in information technology.

Since leaving Google, he has founded Innovation Works, a venture fund that will provide coaching for early stage startups. Innovation Works has US$115 million in funding from elite technologists, including YouTube co-founder Steve Chen; Terry Gou, chairman of Taiwan electronics manufacturer Foxconn; and Legend Group chairman Liu Chuanzhi. WI Harper Group is the lead venture investor.

Sherman So is a Hong Kong-based correspondent and co-author of the soon to-be-published book, Red Wired: China's Internet Revolution.

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bladerunner

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We often hear that Education in China is top down, rote learning and all that, with little room for individuality. If so, could the episode of those two chinese students in America who launched the helium ballon to capture the earths curvature, have happened in China?.

As the saying goes "Only in America"
 

crobato

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We often hear that Education in China is top down, rote learning and all that, with little room for individuality. If so, could the episode of those two chinese students in America who launched the helium ballon to capture the earths curvature, have happened in China?.

As the saying goes "Only in America"

But then again, why are the students Chinese?

US colleges remain top notch and breeds a creative liberal atmosphere. However, the rot is on the lower schools, which doesn't put enough math and science scores. Along with the high costs of college, the only result is that US colleges are being filled with affluent educated young Asians. Furthermore, it seems the best and brightest in the US end up in Wall Street or as lawyers, and we have already seen what overcreativeness has done on the finance markets.

You can see how Apple, Google, Intel, Microsoft, are setting up brain labs outside of the US, and there is no dispute that not only talent is migrating back to tech companies outside of the US and in particular in Asia but the best talent is being grown there also. Note for example who have been winning Top Coder and other software programming contests.
 

RedMercury

Junior Member
We often hear that Education in China is top down, rote learning and all that, with little room for individuality. If so, could the episode of those two chinese students in America who launched the helium ballon to capture the earths curvature, have happened in China?.

As the saying goes "Only in America"
Stereotypes with a bit of racist content. Feh.
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
the Chinese leadership and entrepreneurs would rather see a lot of Chinese going to the US and Europe, learn something useful then come back lol. the Chinese government initiated some "thousand talent plan" paying highly educated and skilled individuals to come to China from abroad...dont know how well that really works but China doesnt really have a shortage in talents, what it really needs are systems that would let these talents shine. doesnt matter if you import a thousand geniuses if you are just gonna marginalize them and keep'em underwater.
 
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