QBZ-191 service rifle family

sabiothailand said:

Weird, the gun seems to shake more in the bipod clip, but the bullets were more accurate than the ones fired from the shoulder. Do those aspects affect gun accuracy or not?

I don't really know much about guns, so I'm not so bright on this.

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Shake more, yes but the recoil is pushing the gun back towards the body. The bipod stops the barrel of the rifle from swinging all over the place making it more accurate as a result. Bipod will always be more stable than holding the gun with your own hands. This accuracy is also pretty common on AR-15s and similar systems.

Aniah said:

Shake more, yes but the recoil is pushing the gun back towards the body. The bipod stops the barrel of the rifle from swinging all over the place making it more accurate as a result. Bipod will always be more stable than holding the gun with your own hands. This accuracy is also pretty common on AR-15s and similar systems.

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AR-15s can also hit all 10s at 100 meters? I never know about this, where did you get those info from?

sabiothailand said:

AR-15s can also hit all 10s at 100 meters? I never know about this, where did you get those info from?

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Expensive AR-15s of American gun enthusiasts are seriously high quality rifles. They hit 1 MOA easily. All of this is common gun knowledge...

sabiothailand said:

AR-15s can also hit all 10s at 100 meters? I never know about this, where did you get those info from?

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There are plenty of YouTube videos you can watch and plenty more gun reviews that talk about accuracy. AR-15 DMRs have also been heavily used in the military for the last couple of decades. Sub-MOA shots are quite common here in the US.

Here are some videos of accurate shooting with the AR-15.



Here is the US M27 IAR which is the equivalent to the QBU 191. The bipod helps stabilize the gun a lot compared to simply holding it with your hands.

Aniah said:

There are plenty of YouTube videos you can watch and plenty more gun reviews that talk about accuracy. AR-15 DMRs have also been heavily used in the military for the last couple of decades. Sub-MOA shots are quite common here in the US.

Here are some videos of accurate shooting with the AR-15.

Here is the US M27 IAR which is the equivalent to the QBU 191. The bipod helps stabilize the gun a lot compared to simply holding it with your hands.

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Yeah I see. But isn't the QBU-191 in the Bipod clip being fired at full auto? In the accuracy test you sent me, people were shooting in semi-auto. I thought full-auto is less accurate than semi-auto, is it not?

sabiothailand said:

Yeah I see. But isn't the QBU-191 in the Bipod clip being fired at full auto? In the accuracy test you sent me, people were shooting in semi-auto. I thought full-auto is less accurate than semi-auto, is it not?

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No not really, it mostly depends on the platform and in this case, full auto on ARs or the QBU is accurate regardless of the fire rate. Accuracy is always dependent on the shooter's control over the gun. The gun itself is always more accurate than the shooter.

Exactly. Accuracy is almost always measured in semiautomatic fire not fully automatic.
Full automatic fire is always going to make a group open up making MOA a useless measure unless the rate of fire for the weapon is reduced by some mechanism of the rifle.

In combat full automatic is only really for close quarters battle or against a moving target. This is as a rifle capable of a MOA grouping at 100m the size of a small cupcake becomes a grouping the size of a thanksgiving dinner.
At range the preference is semiautomatic. As the mission of a DMR is by definition to give the rifle squad longer range engagement capabilities DMRs have a bias to Semiautomatic. Which is why purpose built DMRS often are semiautomatic only and may use a larger caliber.

Now bipods are useful in assisting in controlling recoil of a weapon though there are other technique's and tools. Some for example prefer using a bag against hard surfaces well a bipod against soft. You also have lines and even sling techniques used to help stabilize the weapon. It should be noted though that not all bipods are created equal and the ones used on a DMR will differ from those on an LMG. This is as the one on a LMG is meant to have a bit more flexibility and is more to allow area effect vs the Precision emphasis on the type you mount on a DMR or sniper rifle.